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America is a country of convenience, but for whom? In Virginia, we're having torrential rains the past few days, but this doesn't stop me from doing ordinary chores. A woman still has to eat, even in the pouring rain. After a very long day in the office, I drove to a crowded new grocery store. I had no umbrella, so my tired eyes began searching for a parking space near the entrance so I wouldn't get even more wet. Then I saw this sign!! Right beside the handicapped spaces in each parking aisle are two reserved spots for "Customers with Children." Why? Tell me please why I should have to park further away, carry my heavy bags a longer distance, and get soaking wet just because I'm childless? Being a parent is suddenly a handicap, worthy of a special parking spot?

Then I went inside the store and saw delicious cookies being offered by "Harry the Happy Dragon." But for kids only. What happens if I decide to take one? Will the dragon breathe fire at me? :)

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Do you think parents should have special parking spaces? I don't. I'm sure being a parent is one of the most rewarding and life changing events in a human's life, but with this choice also comes a new set of responsibilities, joys and inconveniences. One of them includes taking much longer to leave the house, board the car and leave it, especially when dealing with an infant. I've done it many, many times with young relatives and my nephew. Such is life...

I love children, but don't think parenthood should equal special and favorable treatment. Not at the grocery store and definitely not in the workplace. How about airplanes, and the nightmare of having an unruly and screaming child near you? Of course, we've all experienced it and in such situations I'm usually very calm and sympathetic as long as the parent tries to correct the child's behavior. Should single people and solo travelers have a "child free" cabin, so they can rest in peace during long flights? :) Personally, I think this idea is ridiculous.

Do you have these special parking spaces for parents at Russian stores?

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Date: 2015-10-02 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] new-forester.livejournal.com
It's probably good for their business to appeal to customers with children in this way, and it's their private lot, they can set their own rules. However, I doubt these signs are enforceable. If you park there, what are they going to do?
OTOH, if I were you, I'd stop patronizing this business, as a matter of principle. If they make you feel unwelcome, why return there?

Date: 2015-10-02 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] berngardovka.livejournal.com
We don't have , but it is not a bad idea

I just realize why we have seats in a public transport
When you are with the child , you should carry your bags, child's bags or toys and carry and hold a child
And it is difficult!

So than less time I should walk on parking than less risk of that I will not hold a hand and he we run and something happened

Date: 2015-10-02 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leo-sosnine.livejournal.com
Pretty obvious, hard to tell why are you ranting. Having children is a serious financial and time wasting burden for parents. It impacts both your career and financial posture. In the end they get barely any benefit for their suffering, but government gets another citizen to pay taxes, to serve in military etc. Any country is as strong as its citizens are and a country with not enough citizens will quickly become a victim of other countries.

I say, currently there aren't enough benefits for parents in America and it's still financially inviable, but government still wins because many parents enjoy parenting by other means than money, specifically, by evolutionary human nature design, especially in women, causing them to "want" to have children and enjoy babysitting by manipulating their behavior.

As of now, it's not financially viable to have children in the US and childless are society's freeriders.

Date: 2015-10-02 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linamay.livejournal.com
I have two kids and I think it's reasonable, it's dangerous and stressful walking with two kids and pushing a cart all over the parking lot.

Date: 2015-10-02 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seadevil001.livejournal.com
it will be better if such spots will be around shopping carts parking areas. So when one stuff children in the car on top of groceries he/she can drop off cart fast, before little monsters start crawling out of windows. 8-)
In MA I saw such signs only at Cabela's store and it did not strike me as a good idea.

Date: 2015-10-02 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybmd.livejournal.com
Ha! I always take a cookie. :}

Date: 2015-10-02 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juan-gandhi.livejournal.com
My daughter has three children. It's not easy. I'd rather leave the space close by to those who have more problems than just rolling back the cart too far from the car.

Date: 2015-10-02 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selfmade.livejournal.com
Tell me please why I should have to park further away, carry my heavy bags a longer distance, and get soaking wet just because I'm physically intact?

Date: 2015-10-02 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-g-o-r-i-u-s.livejournal.com
Shannon, but there was no prohibition for you to take a cookie - they are proposed for kids of all ages!

And these parking spots - it's not a discrimination of childless, no, it's a positive discrimination of parents.

Date: 2015-10-02 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notfop.livejournal.com
In Russia,there is only one official warning sign under the main sign for the Parking area is a "disabled sign". Any other type of warning signs are on the banned list.

Date: 2015-10-02 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexeykostylev.livejournal.com

Usually the are parking slots for disabled as well. Do you want to ask "why shoulg you get wet just because you are not disabled"?

Date: 2015-10-02 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dkfl.livejournal.com
Russia is for childless.
Because you have to to carry only a few heavy bags, not extra screaming "gimme this toy!" 20+kg :)

I like this sort of "discrimination" :)

Date: 2015-10-02 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maadmike.livejournal.com
I don't remmember nothing like this in Russia. But with the birth of a child a man becomes a very milch cow. So, maybe the owner of the grosery just want to show how he likes this perspective? Its like our army should make sign - "Thank you for the son pal, free vacation for year for your priceless baby".

Date: 2015-10-02 07:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] south-of-broad.livejournal.com
Have you tried to load the car with the toddler in your hands? Have you tried to do the same in the rain?

Date: 2015-10-02 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarowind.livejournal.com
>>Right beside the handicapped spaces in each parking aisle are two reserved spots for "Customers with Children."

Good idea.

Date: 2015-10-02 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -kysya.livejournal.com
It's just safety. Parent&child parking have more room between spaces (same as disabled parking) to allow to put a buggy and safely take a child out of the car. They are closer to the shop for other drivers' convenience - no one likes when child or mum with a buggy jumps in front of your car! And cookies... You had your chance for a free cookies, free sweets, free entries to the zoo, discounted bus and cinema tickets, etc. when you were a kid. Now it's other generation's turn :)

Date: 2015-10-02 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mb-b.livejournal.com
One of these days I ought to write a post about how these US of A discriminate against the non-driver. (And it's perfectly legal in most cases.)

Here's one of more benign examples: Do you know any stores in your area that aren't accessible other than by car? I do. They're located on a divided highway with no access from the back streets, and it's technically illegal to walk or cycle on the shoulder even for a hundred feet. No bus stops there either.

Date: 2015-10-02 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] modest-so-zvesd.livejournal.com
Shannon, do you know that people in the Soviet Union had a tax on childlessness?
Married childless women 45 and unmarried childless men 20-45 pay this tax

Date: 2015-10-02 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
I hate the behavior of some young mothers. They require public attention to their children. It was as if only they know how to give birth to children))

At work was a woman who always talked about his children. It's horrible! All employees have children. Only she talks about her children while working. Tired of it all.

Date: 2015-10-02 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porosenok-aust.livejournal.com
I used to be in the hotel in Turkey where was a pop corn only for kids.
First, the price for kids is much less than for adults.
Also, parents just asked their kids to bring pop corn for them.

Just get an umbrella and drop it in your car.

Date: 2015-10-02 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pin-gwin.livejournal.com
Recently I saw reserved parking spot for wounded vets, next to disabled. I don't care. We are parking our vehicles far from entrance, just to save their sides from dings and children scratches.

Date: 2015-10-02 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iiiypmah.livejournal.com
zavidui molcha

Date: 2015-10-02 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qi-tronic.livejournal.com
Yes, it's a very good idea.
It's not only about convenience but also about safety.

No, we don't have the same in Russia (as far as I know) because here the culture of using cars is just developing.
But we have special seats in metro for people with children, elders, disabled and for pregnant women.
Also people are advised to give their seats to those categories.

I personally think that the older you get the more you would think about children and proclaim your childless status just because subconsciously you know that you made a wrong decision to not have them.

Date: 2015-10-02 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jgofri.livejournal.com
So you don't care if someone has a lot more difficult time getting from the car to the store and back. You are wondering why the other people care at all.
Well, I have one more explanation for you, besides some very valid ones above.
It is for the same reason that someone might offer you a jump if your car battery dies on you in the middle of a dark parking lot.
Same reason someone might call the police if they see you being attacked.
Same reason someone might offer you their hand to help you up if you trip and fall.
That reason is basic human kindness.

Date: 2015-10-02 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dc66.livejournal.com
In France I see such signs quite often. Well, I'm childless, and I don't really care about it. It's not a problem for me to walk extra 100 - 200 meters, even if it's raining. Maybe 50 years later it will be the problem for me:)

Yes, childfree cabin is a dream!:)
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