Let's talk about Syria...
Oct. 8th, 2015 09:30 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
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Today, a rare exception in the blog and a search for understanding - politics! I've been closely watching reports about the Russian airstrikes, mostly from RT, which is one of the most anti-Western, Kremlin controlled media outlets. Please explain to me why it's okay for Russia to drop bombs on Syria, but not the U.S.? Do you support this military action? Reading the headlines on RT is enough to make my head spin. Complete glory and hysteria erupting over the great and powerful Russia, everyday tons of posts praising the military action, yet never missing a chance to say something wild and derogatory about the U.S. or Europe in the process. Just a few examples:
- "Less talk, more action! Russian jets destroy ISIS HQ's, tanks and munitions - all in 1 week!!"
- "Russia destroys ISIS command, U.S. destroys hospital"
- "The F-35 death trap!: Pentagon jet's ejection seat could snap pilot's neck"
Russian bombs will not kill innocent civilians? Impossible. I find it scary that Russian and U.S. fighter jets are flying in the same airspace - a disaster waiting to happen?
Last night, I asked one reader how Russians feel about this situation, and his response was interesting: "I'm personally glad because I always want to restore the glory of the Russian Empire and Soviet Union. I was born in a first-class country, a world power, a center of the world, and I cannot live and feel otherwise." How do you feel? From my perspective, all of this joy and enthusiasm over the Russian bombings is hypocritical, especially when so many people constantly climb into my comments shouting "Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan" over and over again, criticizing the U.S. for "dropping bombs" all over the world.
Please help me understand why so many Russians support this military action in Syria. I don't closely follow geopolitical relations, they're not of special interest to me, but it's a very interesting cultural dynamic to explore - the cult of war and militarism. Not in government, but among ordinary citizens of a nation.
I will read all your comments, but please be respectful to each other in the discussion.
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Date: 2015-10-08 01:37 pm (UTC)same thing about US mass media. they o nthe opposite say that Russian's bombings are super bad, while american bombings are cute and safe for inccocent people. Bullshit)
Ah... the sweet smell of propoganda...
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Date: 2015-10-08 01:44 pm (UTC)Скажите, а вы правда считаете, что фергюсон дает право России бомбить США?
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Date: 2015-10-08 01:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-10-08 01:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-10-08 01:44 pm (UTC)BTW Russian press wrote favorably about the Tomahawks flying along the street and turning the corner inside Baghdad city limits during the 1st gulf war.
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Date: 2015-10-08 01:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-10-08 01:46 pm (UTC)About Russia, yes U.S. media discusses these bombings but not in the sensationalist way RT does. If you want to know the tragic number of civilian casualties as a result of U.S. bombings, these figures also are widely available. But RT makes it sound like the U.S. intentionally targets civilians, and I will never believe that this is true.
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Date: 2015-10-08 01:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-10-08 01:48 pm (UTC)And because more than 2000 russian citizens are now in ISIS fighting against goverment forces in Syria and other countries. And they can return to Russia with war skills/ Much better to destroy them at Syria right now.
And because officially Chechen war was ended only 6 years ago and most of russian citizens don't forgett what is it.
And - video. Do not watch this video till the end. You need just recognise the terrorist's language.
http://andrey-cruz.livejournal.com/434681.html
You are saying it again :(
Date: 2015-10-08 01:49 pm (UTC)Could you please point me to the exact source, stating that it is wrong to US to bomb IS? I do not see it anywhere. What is commonly said is that US supporting "moderate rebels" is wrong since this hard to distinguish if they are really pro-democratic fighter or just another gang and that mistakes have already happened. I may remind you where Bin Laden came from. Historically I would say that American foreign policy is to quickly leads to military conflicts which are, by my opinion, a complete failure of diplomacy and intelligence. Using the force is much simpler than using brain power.
For me destroying historical artifacts there should have triggered intimidate and broad ground operation from all countries around the world. They are doing irreversible damage.
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Date: 2015-10-08 01:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-10-08 01:50 pm (UTC)US is the first in the world by arms sales, and Russia is a close second. Thus it is a big advertisement campaign from the Russian side, mentioning that they would not only sell you weapons,but also support your cause. Moreover, it is their attempt to hurt the US and an attempt to diminish its influence in the region.
By the way, let's not forget certain acts performed by the US that can be classified as aggression. Even the Nobel Pease Prize winner has authorized a few.
Moreover, many of those CIA-backed "moderates" are representatives of such movements, as al-Qaeda.
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Date: 2015-10-08 01:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-10-08 01:52 pm (UTC)Если США имеет право вмешаться в разборки бандитов в Сирии, то почему Россия не имеет права вмешаться в разборки бандитов в США?
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Date: 2015-10-08 01:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-10-08 01:55 pm (UTC)Речь о том, что недопустимо бомбить без разрешения или резолюции совбеза...
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Date: 2015-10-08 01:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-10-08 01:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-10-08 02:00 pm (UTC)Oh boy, you are definitely poking sleeping bear. I afraid bunch of propaganda guys will visit your blog soon and explain you why USA brings war and Russia (with Putin) brings only peace.
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Date: 2015-10-08 02:02 pm (UTC)Then GTFO of sky of sovereign state of Syria.
What USSA planes are doing there?
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Date: 2015-10-08 02:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-10-08 02:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-10-08 02:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-10-08 02:05 pm (UTC)no subject
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