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When the food sanctions were announced last year, many Russian bloggers ran to create scandalous headlines and photos showing empty shelves and the threat of inflated food prices. Now, it's my turn to show a small level of panic arising in the markets of the USA. I'm not good at creating yellow headlines for stories, it's simply not in my nature to have a hysterical or panicked mind, even for the sake of ratings. However, I've noticed these signs posted in a lot of local stores, warning that organic milk is running out. The demand in the American marketplace has far exceed the supply, for many reasons. As a result, markets can now charge a premium for this product, but there's a constant debate as to whether the benefits of this type of product outweigh the increased cost. "Organic"...sounds good and healthy, but what does it really mean?

1. "Organic" is a heavily regulated term in the USA, not any producer can slap the claim on its product packaging. The United States Department of Agriculture has strict requirements for "organic" labeling, which simply means the food is grown and processed in accordance with Federal "organic" guidelines. Mainly, such products are free from chemical fertilizers, synthetic pesticides, genetically modified organisms and hormones. Farmers who raise and produce such products must convert their farms to adhere to these practices, and the cost varies depending on the size of the farm. On average, the amount is about $400,000 and some companies who sell organic products to large markets have even offered to subsidize the funding for conversion of farms in rural populations to meet current market demands. Now, the average price for a half gallon of organic milk in my area is over $4.00, almost double the cost of regular milk.

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2. When I read posts in the Russian blogosphere, it seems foreigners have a huge misconception about what Americans eat. I'm completely amazed that people honestly believe Americans are stuffing their faces with hamburgers each day, or standing in queues in McDonald's every night. Where did this stereotype come from? In fact, each time I've ever walked past a McDonald's in Moscow, the lines and crowds inside have been substantially greater than those I've seen in any U.S. location. Many Americans have become more health conscious, particularly in my area of Northern Virginia and Washington, DC where there are a lot of highly educated, younger and high-income residents. I can find any type of organic product in local markets, including beets, useful for yummy borscht. :) For most vegetables, the price for organic and regular don't vary much.

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3. Another product essential to the Russian diet, sitting right on the shelves of all stores - organic mushrooms! The price per pack is $2.49. Each weekend, my neighborhood in Arlington, Virginia also has a small farmer's market, where locally grown organic products can be purchased. Perhaps it's more difficult to find organic products in small town USA, not sure?

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4. There have been no scientific studies which prove that organic foods taste better, or are substantially more healthy. You can search online, and find many studies with nutritional and health data, comparing organic and processed foods. Personally, I'm not a fanatic about food, the main thing is to eat a lot of fruit and vegetables, which I do. I usually buy only organic meats, which are only slightly more expensive (usually $1 - $2). I'm eating this chicken at least two times a week for dinner.

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5. Health, eating, exercise - all of these are personal choices. I don't like people dictating to me what size I should be, which foods I should consume, or whether I should smoke, or even drink alcohol. Almost every human has some vice or addictive behavior in life. Some people destroy their body with carcinogens from cigarettes, others stuff their faces with greasy and unhealthy foods, and some destroy their insides by drowning in vodka every night. Yet the vegans, vegetarians and anti-meat people have been on a rampage in American advertising recently. Just this morning on the way to work, I noticed this poster on the side of a metro bus. The propaganda is sponsored by an organization called "United Poultry Concerns," which protests the conditions in which some chickens live in farming operations. Btw, this organization has even created its own holiday, 4 May - "International Respect for Chickens Day." :))

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6. For the extremely sensitive and eco-friendly, you can even wipe your ass with toilet paper free from dyes, fragrances and bleach. America - a country of choices! :)

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Are organic products in high demand in Russia? I see many comments posted in my journal screaming about processed American foods, but what are the regulations in Russia? Your food can't be completely natural and free from preservatives. I've seen a lot of canned meat, soup and vegetable products in Russian grocery stores which would not have an extended shelf life if they were completely natural. Like here, in the village.
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I think the main reason why Americans are larger than other populations has nothing to do with processed foods. The culprit is our huge portion sizes and sedentary lives. We eat more, and move much less, because almost everyone has cars. As a whole, most Americans are lazier than Russians and Europeans. We don't need to climb a lot of stairs in metro stations or stores. Escalators and elevators exist almost everywhere. We're not forced to walk long distances to reach a store or restaurant and, outside of huge metropolises, parking is easily available everywhere.

What do you think of this organic trend? Do you buy such products?
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Date: 2015-05-14 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] isurok.livejournal.com
ни фига не по-русски написано!

Date: 2015-05-14 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gallon.livejournal.com
The antonym of 'organic' is 'non-organic' or 'mineral'. In other words, any living (or used to live, hehe) tissue is organic in chemical sense. Hence, imho: all this organic frenzy is a hoax. Natural does not mean safe, and vice versa. If one does not use fertilizer it does not mean his crops are cleaner. Moreover, genetical manipulation is sooo coool, it is a tragedy that it is surrounded by prejudice and superstition.

Date: 2015-05-14 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I agree with you. Some of my Russian friends have posted pics of rotten fruits sitting in Russian markets. So, is it better to have constantly spoiled products, or a clean, shiny apple? There have been no studies to indicate the amount of pesticides used cause any physical harm, and I always wash fruits and vegetables before eating them. People in mass society are easily brainwashed, and too lazy to research facts for themselves.

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Date: 2015-05-14 02:48 pm (UTC)
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Туалетная бумага без ГМО? Задумался...

Date: 2015-05-14 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Yes, non-GMO toilet paper! :)) Do you have it in Russia? I hate the toilet paper there. It's usually very rough, almost like regular paper, and not soft and cushioned.

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Date: 2015-05-14 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onkel-hans.livejournal.com
I never eat or drink anything organic. Mine are exclusively inorganic!!! Nuts and bolts!

There was a wonderful book by Connie Willis "Bellwether" where she ironically describes many kinds of fads.

Date: 2015-05-14 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Yes, these health fads drive me insane! Paleo, Atkins, Cabbage Soup diets....everything comes in and out of trend. The formula for weight control is simple - eat less and move more. For some people, it's just easier than others. They have good genetics and naturally high metabolisms. I'm extremely envious of such people! One of my friends was just complaining to me last night how she is trying to gain weight - eating a lot of sweets, pasta and rich foods, yet not a single pound gained!! I'm the opposite - I must be extremely disciplined and focused to maintain my already curvy and full body.

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Date: 2015-05-14 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-sh.livejournal.com
Europe is crazy about the eco-products too! I think that food should be healthy without any synthetic pesticides, so it's easy to have healthy food here in France where I'm studying. There's a really poor situation in Russia because of Chinese farmers and lack of strong regulations...

Date: 2015-05-14 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
So why do a lot of Russians yell about processed and GMO foods in America? Perhaps they're just misinformed? As you correctly state, in Europe and the USA organic and hormone free products are available in most places. So, people have a choice in what they eat and purchase.

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Date: 2015-05-14 03:36 pm (UTC)
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Thank you, it's interesing.

Date: 2015-05-14 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
You're welcome! Nice to hear from you again. :) I hope all is well!

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Date: 2015-05-14 03:48 pm (UTC)
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Thank you, it's interesing

Date: 2015-05-14 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Здравствуйте! Пожалуйста!

Date: 2015-05-14 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] south-of-broad.livejournal.com
I personally prefer locally grown veggies, fruits. So much tastier when it's fresh and in season . Also dairy and eggs are mostly local. We only buy meat and seafood in our commissary on the base. I once had an apple for 4 weeks in the hot car. The day I found it under the sit ( I have children, ok)) it was as fresh as the day I had bought it. Pink Lady are banned for life from my kitchen. It's just freaky )

Date: 2015-05-14 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Omg, kids are amazing! Sometimes in my sister's car, I find the most disgusting things between the cracks of her car and seats. :)) This was especially true when my nephew was young and still in the car seat. This contraption was basically a mobile petri dish. :))

Что вырастил, то и покурил

Date: 2015-05-14 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrey-kaminsky.livejournal.com
In Russia there is no special centralized "organic" business. Fans of "hand maid" cucumbers visit markets. In addition, the gardening is very developed here. People who have a country house often raise their own vegetables. I'm waiting for apple trees, that i planted, will grow up, in order to start making homemade brew. Then I'll grow a beard and will lay naked in the grass as Parry in the "The Fisher King" film:)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
And you think people don't grow their own vegetables in America? Many people have gardens, fruit trees, etc. in their yard. :) Just last week in California, I ate lemons from my aunt's lemon tree. She grows all kinds of stuff there in the sunny weather.

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oh, you bet!

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Date: 2015-05-14 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sineglazzka2301.livejournal.com
Half of Russian population grows organic vegetables in their own gardens (dachas, you know:). In Soviet times, this was a need, which has transformed into a habit for elder generation. For some, it's a kind of hobby, and a matter of competition with neighbours. My parents-in-law, who live in a small town, grow almost all their vegetables and berries themselves. What they don't eat, they save for winter, and what can't be preserved naturally, is dried, frozen, pickled, made into jam, juice or syrop. And all this in a climate similar to the middle of Alaska:) We grow sone vegetables, too, but mostly for seasonal consumption (like carrots, lettuce, beet). And barries, of course. We can't go without homemade jams.
As for regulations, they are rather weak here, so we never know for sure what we eat:( Especially in winter.

Date: 2015-05-14 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Everything in America is heavily regulated. :) Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. Many people in the USA also grow and can their own vegetables. Several people in my family do it. I don't have a yard, otherwise I would have a small garden. I remember in the village, seeing all of the potatoes and mushrooms in one of the villager's houses! It was like a whole basement full of potatoes!!

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Date: 2015-05-14 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qi-tronic.livejournal.com
I always tried to buy organic food when I lived in the USA and Great Britain.
It simply tastes better and more natural.

Here we don't have a stable organic market.
First of all, AFAIK, the're no Russian nationwide organic certification.
Those manufacturers who do certify their products usually do it by German standards.

So here I normally stick to manufacturers or store chains with good reputation who sell "farmers", "bio" or "eco" products.
We also buy German bio-cosmetics and such.

PS.
You can easily find any toilet paper in Moscow including 3-tier, made from fresh cellulose (not recycled paper) and so on.
Of course nobody seek for "organic" or "non-GMO" paper because it sounds stupid.
Russians do not care much about environment but rather on their own health :)

Date: 2015-05-14 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
For most of these products, I don't experience any difference in taste. I didn't know that you lived in Great Britain? Where? Did you like it better than life in the USA? I guess my host in Russia is cheap, because the toilet paper in his apartment is very rough. I'm an American princess, and need soft tissues for my butt. :))

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Date: 2015-05-14 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] creaze.livejournal.com
Things like salted cucumbers or smoked fish are probably perfectly free of any conservatives, HMO and stuff — this is the traditional way to conserve them.

Personally i don't like them, i prefer meat and vegetables made though maybe with some chemistry, but the one that i get totally fresh. And still, it goes off in a matter of days.

Oh, and that organic chicken on your pic — i think i've bought it once. In an 'organic only' market.

Date: 2015-05-14 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Maybe you bought it at "Whole Foods" or "Trader Joe's"? These are the two largest organic, "health food" store chains in the USA. But this chicken is available almost everywhere, you don't need to go to a specialty store to purchase it.

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Date: 2015-05-14 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theodorexxx.livejournal.com
1. In Russia product's price tells whether the food is organic or not.
2. I think some people buy organic because they can afford it and wanna show they care about their health
3. How can reduced fat milk be labeled organic?
4. Why do products have 2 price tags? Okay it might be useful to know the price per quart and per half gallon. But what about beets?
5. Product's packaging is the same in USA and Russia
6. Vegans suck

Date: 2015-05-14 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I don't think product packaging is the same. I've never noticed anything marked "Organic" or with any type of Federal certification in Russia. I could never be a vegan or vegetarian, esp. the former. It's too restrictive of a diet, and I like food too much.

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Date: 2015-05-14 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] creaze.livejournal.com
BTW, i loved that 'sovok' lable on that canned pork. It's sarcastic.

Date: 2015-05-14 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Canned meat scares me! :)
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Date: 2015-05-14 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genka8.livejournal.com
I remember seeing an "organic light bulb" in a store.

Date: 2015-05-14 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
How is this possible? :)) What makes it "organic?"

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Date: 2015-05-14 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
Shannon, canned meat no preservatives!
It is the pure product
Canned food is prepared under high temperature.

Date: 2015-05-15 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
What canned meat do you like to eat?

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Date: 2015-05-14 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarowind.livejournal.com
Yes, in Russia we have "organic" food, but I 'm not sure that it real organic:)

Date: 2015-05-14 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Another Russian mystery! :) In the U.S., it's quite clear if something is organic because of Federal labeling requirements. You will remember we have signs and explanations everywhere in my country! :))

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Date: 2015-05-14 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] born-in1978.livejournal.com
It was hard for me to find delicious food in SF Bay Area. It was explained that americans like to eat much and not very picky. I ate delicious food only about 5 times during my 3 weeks stay.
I also tried so-called Organic food - not all products were deliciuous too.

Date: 2015-05-14 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
What types of food do you consider "delicious?" In SF Bay Area, they have everything, including lots of fresh fish and seafood.

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Date: 2015-05-14 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exista.livejournal.com
I would disagree with some statement.
1) About McDonalds. Amount of fast food cafe's and restaurants in US is much much bigger than in Russia. In almost every town (I'm not considering very small towns) I can found McDonalds or Jack in the Box or some noname fast food place. Have you seen such big amount of fast food places outside of big cities like Moscow, Novgorod, Ekaterinburg, Petersburg etc? Оr even if it's not fast food, in many places menu contains french fries, sandwiches, hamburgers etc. It's not healthy food.

2) About smart young people :) Of course, I can be wrong, but what I see in my company is young people mostly eat french fries, sandwiches, hamburgers for lunch. Really. Every day.
Older people prefer some soups, healthy salads, dairy products, meat etc.

>> The culprit is our huge portion sizes and sedentary lives.
100% agree! I've never seen anywhere so huge portion sizes. Especially in countryside. Usually, one plate is enough for me and my spouse to be full and grab the rest for next time.

Date: 2015-05-15 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Outside of major cities, there are almost no restaurants in small Russian towns, esp. not villages. Russia doesn't have a culture of "eating out" the same way Americans do. For us, it's very common and cheap. Sure, most restaurants will have burgers and fries on their menus, but also many healthier choices (like chicken or fish). So, once again, is up to each person what he or she puts in their mouth. :)) None of my friends are regularly eating french fries or sandwiches, but I'm mostly hanging around with people in the age range of 30 - 40 years old. When you're young, your waistline is not so impacted by such foods, so a lot of university students are eating fast food and other unhealthy choices. I think it's the same in most countries.

Date: 2015-05-15 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seadevil001.livejournal.com
I remember one short story by O'Henry were "strawberry jam became red when "no chemicals added" label was slapped on it". I do not think much about it, though we buy organic milk for little one, trying to avoid hormones. I believe if actual test on recombinant hormones and whatever will be done most "organic" stuff will turn to be fake.
One thing certain, in US there are incredible amount of chemicals and what not going into food and people cannot do anything about it. As to health effects, I think they are exist and not beneficial. But again, nothing you can do about it.

Date: 2015-05-15 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I don't like to drink milk by itself, so I've never even tasted these organic varieties. All of this "organic" hysteria is just a modern day trend with the hipsters and health fanatics. It too will probably pass over the years. :)

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Date: 2015-05-15 10:26 am (UTC)
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Canned products in Russian stores contain just "product", water and spicies, salt, sugar, depending on taste, producers keeps in mind. There is nothing "to preserve color", "to preserve freshness", etc... as you would see on absolute majority of cans in US stores outside Whole foods/Trader Joe/etc... You can find canned beans, fish, meat etc... without preservatives in every single store in Russia, while you have to go to specific stores to find them in California, for example. I always ask myself, when I visit non-Trader Joe and similar stores, why you need to add all those chemicals, if simplest heat sterilization gives exactly the same result (and cans without chemicals cost exactly the same as with chemicals from my experience). It is one of biggest mysteries in US food industry for me. It is also impossible to find bread without chemicals in chain stores in certain areas (including stores of healthy food. There is no one type of bread without long list of chemicals in Trader Joe's in LA), unless they belong to certain ethnic minorities. May be it is different in other states. There is big choice of organic products, but there are also a lot of VERY sad things (of course, diet of average Russian person is far from desired by doctors too, and Russian food industry also goes into chemical future).

Date: 2015-05-15 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I'm only eating fresh vegetables, not canned. It's easy to find good produce in my area at local stores, or the farmer's market, so there's absolutely no way I would buy canned veggies. I guess people do it because it's usually cheaper, and they're too lazy or busy to prepare or saute fresh vegetables each evening. I have no kids or husband, so plenty of time in the evenings to put something in the pan and cook it. :)

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Date: 2015-05-15 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] k-netalie.livejournal.com
i think the only organic food i eat is from my mom's garden and farm. my mom has goats and hens so we get pure milk and eggs. and the taste and even look different.

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Date: 2015-05-15 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I've never tasted goats' milk!

Date: 2015-05-15 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] k-netalie.livejournal.com
it has a piculiar taste but it's very healthy. as well as goats' curd (or you call it russian cream cheese?)

Date: 2015-05-15 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I've eaten goat cheese, it's popular in the USA. It also has a strong taste, but I love almost all cheeses. :)

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Date: 2015-05-18 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anna-sollanna.livejournal.com
Frankly speaking, I can't understand all this fuss about organic stuff. I never paid any attention to the labels of vegetables or milk or meat when I used to live in Russia and I continue this practice here in Poland. :)))
And I am rather oppose to vegans, because eating meat is necessary for health. Of course everyone can decide for themselves, but they should not force minors and so forth to adhere their vegan diet...

Date: 2015-05-18 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Me too, I'm not such a fanatic about food. And I enjoy culinary delights and feasts, therefore could never adhere to a strict vegan diet! :))

Date: 2015-05-19 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mystery-86.livejournal.com
"I'm completely amazed that people honestly believe Americans are stuffing their faces with hamburgers each day, or standing in queues in McDonald's every night. Where did this stereotype come from?"
I think it comes from TV programs and movies: take any movie or show and you will see Americans eating fast food - at school, at work, at home watching TV etc, especially in teenager movies.

As for Russian canned and pickled food: pickled vegetables are natural - they are cooked using only vinegar and salt and that`s it.

I found an interesting video "Americans Try Bizarre Russian Foods For The First Time" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvGDafHwVjo. It is funny to see their reaction)) Have you tried all this food during your stay in Russia? What is your impression? As for me, I hate kholodets and salo - can`t stand the texture!

Date: 2015-05-19 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I've seen this video! It's so funny, I even thought about writing a post about it. Yes, I've tasted almost every item in that video, but I don't really like Russian cuisine. I once wrote a post about it, perhaps you'll find it amusing, esp. the comments from Russians, where they take it as a personal insult to their country if you don't like their cuisine :)) The post are http://peacetraveler22.livejournal.com/56234.html and http://peacetraveler22.livejournal.com/69240.html.

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