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I've never once seen bloody animals being sacrificed, goats with sliced throats or any other celebratory or religious customs of Muslims celebrated on the streets of the USA. However, I remember readers sending me photos of these religious traditions, which may seem barbaric to some, playing out on the streets of different Russian cities. I've always struggled with the question of immigration vs. cultural heritage. To what extent should immigrants in a new country part with their cultural ties, and assimilate into the new environment? I think it's a delicate balance, and there are no easy answers.

When I was in San Diego a few months ago, my visit coincided with one of the most important Mexican holidays - Cinco De Mayo. Most Americans think this is Mexican Independence Day, but in fact it's a day to commemorate the Mexican army's victory over the French in the Battle of Puebla in 1862. The holiday is widely celebrated in the USA, with many festivals and ordinary citizens eating Mexican food and sipping margaritas in the warm sun. I was in Old Town San Diego, a huge Mexican mecca in California, during Cinco De Mayo and encountered all kinds of festivities, food, beautiful dancers and mariachi bands.

1. If you're in San Diego, it's necessary to visit this area. It's very touristy, but fun with a lot of shops, music, cheap clothes and souvenirs, etc. It's a State protected Historical Park, and contains a lot of old, restored buildings from the early 1800's.

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2. During Cinco De Mayo, it was blazing hot and all lawns were crowded for a huge party being sponsored by Univision, the largest Spanish language television provider in the USA. Old and young Mexicans pulled up lawn chairs, shaded themselves with umbrellas and hats, and enjoyed all of the performances on a large stage.

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4. My Spanish is okay, but I had no idea what was happening during most of the performances. In this play, young Mexican boys appeared in wedding dresses, followed by dancers in colorful costumes. The audience was completely enthralled, cheering, laughing and singing at various points. Boys in dresses? Seems like something highly unspiritual. :)) The play almost seemed like something out of a Spanish soap opera, with muchachos vying for the affection of the bride. "Muchacho" - Spanish word for boy in case you don't know.

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5. The Town Square is filled with hundreds of shops, cafes and ice-cream shops. Colorful and very photogenic for photographers.

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6. If you're a fan of pottery or garden accessories, it's the best place to shop in the USA! Everything is cheap, and these hand-painted pots for plants and flowers cost only $10.50. I would have bought one home, but they are too fragile and would not have survived the long plane ride back to the East Coast.

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8. I don't know the purpose of these items. Perhaps they are simply hanging decorations, or they contain evil spells or curses inside? :)

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9. Cheap instruments for young kids to buy. I think they also make nice wall decorations! Boys - the quickest way to many girls' hearts is through poetic lyrics and a guitar. I gave my young nephew this advice when he began taking acoustic guitar lessons.

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10. If you support free expression, you must take the good with the bad! For me, there's nothing more irritating than these Jesus freaks that stand in huge crowds with microphones, shouting anti-gay sentiments, proclaiming that the only way to happiness is through the Lord, and threatening eternal damnation for those who choose another path in life. Of course, it's their right to say and believe as they wish, but most people seemed completely uninterested in the ideology and aggressive tone of the speaker. You can see all the banners for burritos and other Mexican foods in the background. This is one of the main reasons locals visit Old Town - for the food! :))

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11. On the streets, plump and cheerful Mexican women make tortillas from scratch, press them in a hot skillet and serve them piping hot! You can eat them plain, with butter, salsa or a variety of hot sauces.

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12. I was in San Diego for a work conference, but there's always time for play. So, my young assistant and I took time out in the middle of the day to return to Old Town for a Cinco De Mayo lunch. In almost all Mexican restaurants, chips and salsa are brought to the table for free shortly after you're seated. On a hot day, there are few drinks more refreshing than a margarita! You can drink them over crushed ice or frozen (like a slushie), and in a lot of fruit flavors. I usually pick the classic lime margarita or strawberry. Tasty! :)) Btw, something that bothers me in Russian restaurants is how long it takes to get your drinks! Sometimes, they come only when the meal is brought. It's strange for an American, who is used to water being brought immediately, sometimes even when the waitress first greets your table.

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13. Usually, I find these violin and mariachi players a nuisance, but on this day I was slightly drunk and they only contributed to the festive, party atmosphere. They play for tips, sing you beautiful tunes in Spanish, and then go on to the next victims...oops, I meant table. :)

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14. Mexican cuisine doesn't seem popular in Russia, I've seen very few restaurants there serving this type of food. In America, burritos and tacos are almost as popular as hamburgers. ;) Most Americans like this cuisine, and Mexican restaurants can be found almost everywhere. I ate this massive plate of food, with the main dish being "flautas." This is a flour tortilla, stuffed with spicy chicken and cheese, deep fried and covered in more cheese sauce and sour cream. Almost all Mexican dishes are served with  refried beans and rice. Yes, a heart attack on a plate, but when I'm traveling I don't watch what I eat. It's time for indulgence, and I choose the most rich and delicious meals.

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15. I don't know how many Mexican restaurants exist in the condensed area of Old Town San Diego, but it feels like hundreds. Usually, the lines to be seated are long, but don't worry! They move very fast, and if you visit this region of San Diego, a trip would not be complete if you didn't eat the local food! If you are health conscious, there are healthy Mexican options where you can eat only proteins like chicken and beef with vegetables, but where's the fun in that? :)

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16. Now, back to the original question about immigrant assimilation. Today, I saw this post from Varlamov, where he mentions the mass crowds that gather in Moscow each year at the end of Ramadan. He writes on this topic yearly, and I always read the thousands of comments that usually gather, spewing hate at Muslims and their impact on Russian society. This year, Varlamov is in the USA in New York City on Eid al-Fitr. This is one of the biggest cesspools of humanity in the USA. In the post, he states that he wanted to go shoot similar scenes, so he asked New York City locals where the Muslims gather, and was disappointed to learn we don't have this huge spectacle here. I've never once seen it in all of my travels in America. Maybe it happens on a smaller scale in places like Detroit or Minneapolis, which house two of the largest Muslim populations in the States. The only Muslim impact I see is women who continue to wear hijab, or on rare occasions full burqas. About the latter, I am 100% opposed. I wore this garment, and wrote about the sensations and emotions it caused here.

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17. Me, behind the blue veil. The color of the garment matches the tint of my eyes, but how would you know?

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What do you think? Is it harmful for immigrants to celebrate Cinco De Mayo and religious rites like Eid al-Fitr in their new homeland?

I'm not sure if anyone is on LJ on a Friday night, but hopefully some people will see and offer opinions on this post.
Next week, I'll tell you a lot more about beautiful San Diego! In the meantime, have a nice, sunny weekend! :)


Date: 2015-07-17 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saccovanzetti.livejournal.com
It is harmful in a way that any tasteless "cultural" carnival disconnected from real historic events is harmful to collective memory.

Date: 2015-07-17 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
"Tasteless" is a subjective term. What is tasteless to one person is ordinary and acceptable to another. This is why the cultural balance is hard to manage in nations with diverse and multi-religious populations.

Date: 2015-07-17 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anna-sollanna.livejournal.com
> To what extent should immigrants in a new country part with their cultural ties, and assimilate into the new environment?
For me the answer to this question is very simple - people are free to do everything that doesn't disturb other people's freedom. Arranging in special places festivals of some cultures doesn't prevent other people from living their common lives, and blocking streets to pray outdoors does.

Date: 2015-07-17 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anna-sollanna.livejournal.com
Forgot to ask one thing...
> My Spanish is okay
Can you understand Spanish and speak it? And have you got all this knowledge just from your school program?

Date: 2015-07-17 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I studied Spanish for two years in high school and one year in university, but that was over 20 years ago. :) I can understand it okay and say basic phrases and words. In the U.S., it's a very, very common language and I'm working with a lot of Spanish speaking immigrants in my legal work. We always have an interpreter in our meetings, but I can understand a lot of what they say. Unfortunately, I've lost most of my linguistic ability over the past few decades because I rarely practice speaking in Spanish.
Edited Date: 2015-07-17 04:11 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-07-17 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
It's a good point, but big cultural parades and festivities often block and close-off main streets and intersections such that maneuvering around them is difficult by car. At least in the USA. The result is huge traffic jams because bridges and main thoroughfares are blocked in large cities. Even when I visited Old Town in San Diego during this festival, it was almost impossible to drive there. The only option was to arrive by trolley, train or walking from a few blocks away.

Date: 2015-07-17 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorli87.livejournal.com
It looks so colourful and bright!

Date: 2015-07-17 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
It is! Mexicans have great parties. :) In my parent's neighborhood, Mexican families often have huge celebrations with lots of food, music and dozens of guests. Also, they have a tradition for young girls when they celebrate their 15th birthday. It's called "Quinceañera". The young girl wears an elaborate and formal dress, all kinds of fun! :))

Date: 2015-07-17 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
In the United States can not be collected in a large crowd, right?
police will come and disperse

in Russia, they gathered in large crowds, but still Muslims criticize Russia)))

paradox)

Date: 2015-07-17 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Please get a visa and come visit the USA! :) I have no idea where you come up with these crazy ideas about life here. Large crowds can't gather? This is completely false.

Date: 2015-07-17 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
in the United States can gather a crowd of Muslims out of 100 000 people in Moscow?

Date: 2015-07-17 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Here's a photo from the "Million Man March" in Washington, DC in the 1990's. There are lots of other examples of huge U.S. gatherings and protests, but I'm at work and don't have time to search. Google it. :) We don't have such a large Muslim population in the USA.

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Date: 2015-07-17 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
90 years later, ..that
It is now allowed to be collected?

Майдан в США ?)))

Date: 2015-07-17 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
This was in 1995. Yes, it is still possible to hold large demonstrations and gathers in the USA. They are quite frequent.

Date: 2015-07-17 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
Chennault I do not believe that in Washington or New York, allowed to gather 100,000 Muslims))
Muslims!
I DO NOT BELIEVE
It can not be)

Date: 2015-07-17 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
I ask about 2015, Shannon)
Now this is not possible

Date: 2015-07-17 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
Now the Muslims are going to 100,000 crowd or not?)
if you answer my question, you probably guessed why I do not believe

Date: 2015-07-17 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I'm not aware of huge Muslim gatherings, but that's their choice. If they wanted to, they can apply for permits or institute spontaneous gatherings anywhere in America. However, as I mentioned before, the Muslim population in the USA is not as large as parts of Western Europe or Russia, so that's why we don't see such large Muslim gatherings. For instance, in France there are close to 8 or 9 million Muslims, in the UK around 5 million, and in Russia I think it's close to 15 million. In the U.S, a huge country, we have less than 3 million. So, you need to keep everything in perspective. :) Btw, the figures come from here - http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/01/15/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/.

Date: 2015-07-17 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
little, but Muslims have in the US)
today they celebrate?
They pray?
This is shown in the TV, in the media?

many Muslims in Europe
They gathered in large crowds?

Date: 2015-07-17 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
look
I search in google "Muslim Americans Eid al-Fitr"
the first three photos from America
including 1 Obama))

and that Russian Internet "ураза Россия"
https://www.google.ru/search?q=%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B0+%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC+%D0%B2+%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B5&newwindow=1&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=667&site=webhp&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMI7bW6kOvixgIVRFosCh3Pggw7#newwindow=1&tbm=isch&q=%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B0++%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F


Muslims in Europe than in Russia
But I have not found in the German, English, French sites Photo Muslims praying in the mosques, in the street today

In US and Europe are afraid of Muslims?
YES.

  around the Internet a photo with Russia

А давайте я вам помогу :)

Date: 2015-07-19 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrey-kaminsky.livejournal.com
Я по поводу ваших английских текстов. Возьмём к примеру "In US and Europe are afraid of Muslims?". Это неправильное предложение было получено г-переводчиком из правильного "В США и Европе боятся мусульман?". Почему так вышло, что из правильное предложение было переведено неправильно? Потому, что в русской версии отсутствовало подлежащее, форма сказуемого "боятся" делает употребление подлежащего "люди" необязательным. Но английский язык устроен так, что глагол не несёт в себе такую массу признаков, как наклонение, число, время, род. Поэтому наличие подлежащего в английском предложении является вещью обязательной. Подлежащие и сказуемое должны присутствовать всегда. Стройте предложение так: " Люди в США и Европе боятся мусульман?", тогда перевод на английский будет приемлемым.

Re: А давайте я вам помогу :)

Date: 2015-07-19 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
только наши любят брать на себя роль учителя ))))

идите с миром , мне по фиг

Re: А давайте я вам помогу :)

Date: 2015-07-19 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrey-kaminsky.livejournal.com
Отлично:) Как бы вы теперь не убеждали себя. про то как вам пофиг, а про подлежащее и сказуемое помнить будете. Такой вот коварный план:)

Date: 2015-07-17 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oblomius.livejournal.com
In the last photo beautiful girl )) 100% true))

Date: 2015-07-17 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Thanks! :) But, it's a very strange feeling walking around as a ghost in this burqa, with no identity or expression visible to the outside world. :( I can't understand a religion that treats women this way.

Date: 2015-07-17 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oblomius.livejournal.com
This is their world, their religion.

Date: 2015-07-18 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vasilowski.livejournal.com
As I was told in Iran, the purpose of this garment is to prevent the sexual attraction of a woman to other men. She still can have nice wear and makeup, but visible to her husband (and family) only. Sex in married couples is more fresh and sensual this way. I agree with them that teasing men with attractiveness and beautiful but reachless body is a crime.
Also burqua (paranja) protects them against sun and dust. Don't laugh, often it is a mobile restroom. :)

Date: 2015-07-19 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
"teasing men with attractiveness and beautiful but reachless body is a crime..." What!?! :) I think men are more than animals, but maybe I'm wrong. :)

Date: 2015-07-20 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vasilowski.livejournal.com
You are absolutely right!
All human activity, men and women, at its core based solely on three pillars: food, reproduction and dominance. Those are subconscious animal’s instincts.
Not to be boring explaining trivial facts, here is a couple of examples:

- when I see a beautiful body with private things covered by strings only, I experience severe stress, as I am not able to grab and pull this body by her hair into my cave. Of course, I can pay crazy bucks to make every (!) girl walking with me, but this is prostitution, not reproduction.
or
- just imagine you found yourself on a desert island. Warm, cozy and lots of food. Would you diet, exercise, do makeups and epilation? Sure no. But if suddenly (and fully unexpectedly) a team of baboons come, you’d regret your mirror sunk with the purse (and you might not attract the strongest)…

And take it as a joke please :)

Date: 2015-07-17 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybathroom.livejournal.com
Mexico is a nice plaсе for touristic visit but I would choose the US for travel.

Date: 2015-07-17 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Me too. :) Mexico is too hot for me, and part of it are very third-world. Only for the adventurous! :)

Date: 2015-07-17 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhang-fei.livejournal.com
"Mexican cuisine doesn't seem popular in Russia, I've seen very few restaurants there serving this type of food. In America, burritos and tacos are almost as popular as hamburgers. ;) Most Americans like this cuisine, and Mexican restaurants can be found almost everywhere".

There's a pattern, concerning mass illegal immigration and food tastes - a titular nation usually adopts and incorporates immigrant's cuisine. Same thing happened with Italian food, ater influx of those dirty guidos their food became popular in US and then in the world. In Germany Turkish street food is widespread, Indian is well-known in Britain and so on. In Russia, there's a large amount of immigrants from Middle Asia and food like "plov", "chebureki" and "belyashi" (they are Tartar, but still) became very popular, but in order Mexican food to be in high demand, there need to be millions of immigrants from Latin America.So, that's strange, you know - we hate immigrants but like their food.

Date: 2015-07-17 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
"dirty guidos"...what's wrong with Italians? :) Yes, it's an interesting point you make but in the USA you can easily find every type of cuisine (Indian, Mexican, Ethiopian, Italian, Chinese, Japanese...the list is endless) in most cities, even if huge numbers of people from those ethnic backgrounds haven't migrated to the particular area. I don't think I've ever seen a Mexican or Central American person in all of my Russian travels! They must exist there somewhere!

Date: 2015-07-17 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhang-fei.livejournal.com
There were a lot of students from Latin America (especially Central America) in Russia when Soviet Union tried to spread friendly communism and completely heterosexual proletariat friendship by kissing each other like Brezhnev while evil, greedy Americans resisted it, don't think there are many students from those places now.

Date: 2015-07-17 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikhail-svr.livejournal.com
That's nice)

Date: 2015-07-17 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Yes, it's a vibrant and colorful place. Certain to brighten your mood! :)

Date: 2015-07-17 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minerman61.livejournal.com
Сто лет, сто зим тебя не слышал (i vahen't heard you for сто years) :-))
How are you? How do you belong to the Russian ЖЖ soceity now? HAS this (soceity) accepted you for years?! :-)
Come&go, as you americans say.
Would you please visit my distant corner at the оther side of the former USSR?
I now live alone & in the most дисгастинг ариас ин зе ворлд бля (((((((


Date: 2015-07-19 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Hi! I don't have much time to write stories here on LJ anymore because we are traveling a lot on weekends during the summer. Maybe one day I will visit your city, but I don't know when I will return to Russia. There are many other countries on the planet to explore. :)

Date: 2015-07-18 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-unicum.livejournal.com
Мракобесие.
Причём не только ислам, но и любая другая религия.
Болезнь, раковая опухоль человечества.

Date: 2015-07-19 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Yes, a disease but the easiest way to suppress a population.

Страна возможностей

Date: 2015-07-19 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrey-kaminsky.livejournal.com
Is there in the english language such concept as "spanish collar"? It is a musical, rock and roll concept, the same as the "andante" or "rubato", naked appearance on the stage or set a guitar on fire. The "spanish collar" is a hit by the guitar after which the head passes through the guitar and guitar is wearing around the neck.
Those colored guitars reminded me of my brightest youth. Thanks:)

Re: Страна возможностей

Date: 2015-07-19 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I've never once heard of this "Spanish Collar," but I googled it and look what I found. :))

"Phimosis"

At the underside of the glans a small skin-slip runs from the opening of the urethra towards the foreskin; this skin-slip is sometimes too short causing it to tear during intercourse (usually the first). Profuse bleeding is the result, followed by a nighttime visit to the emergency ward of the local hospital. Fortunately, the bleeding stops by itself and the tear lengthens the skin-slip so that it usually happens only once. In some cases, however, only a small tear results and evolving scar tissue will even shorten the slip.
In a sense the opposite of a narrowed foreskin, which cannot be retracted over the glans anymore, is the socalled "SPANISH COLLAR;" In that case the foreskin is also narrowed, but its owner somehow managed to retract it over the glans, but is unable to get it back again. The foreskin will remain lodged behind the ridge of the glans, gets irritated and starts swelling, making it impossible to get it back over the ridge again. This condition is rather painful and usually requires medical attention.

Re: Страна возможностей

Date: 2015-07-20 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrey-kaminsky.livejournal.com
Even improper "spanish collar" (using electric guitar instead of acoustic) isn't such a terrible thing like that you googled up :)
As i understand it, you participate in such a social movement? :
http://www.ted.com/talks/alice_goffman_college_or_prison_two_destinies_one_blatant_injustice
You are a wonderful person!

Date: 2015-07-21 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Irish, german, british and french people are immigrants too on the land of true americans - indians!

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