peacetraveler22: (Default)
peacetraveler22 ([personal profile] peacetraveler22) wrote2015-09-19 10:34 pm

Do you now live a thousand times better than during Soviet times?

RU26

If time travel ever becomes possible, I would transport myself back to Moscow or the province in the 1970's or 80's to better understand the realities of life in Soviet times. Looking at old photos in books or online, I can hardly envision such a system of life where everything is so structured and predestined. This is the eternal debate amongst my older Russian friends and readers - the pros and cons of life in the USSR vs. modern day Russia. Tonight I read an article written by a man who was only nine years old when the Soviet Union collapsed. However, he claims this was long enough to form a strong enough opinion about life in the USSR to know that he never wishes to return. His observations seem a bit shallow and naive on the surface. He takes a few of the most commonly expressed strengths of the Soviet system, and explains why they are misconceptions. Please remember these are not my personal views, but the opinions of a former resident in the Soviet Union. Let's begin with education...

Myth 1: The Soviet education was the best in the world

sovok7

There's a common belief that education in the Soviet system was good, perhaps even the best in the world.  However, this was largely a result of propaganda, and it's important to ask the primary question of how a "great" education should be measured?  It's clear that scientific progress in the West was no less than in the USSR.  Moreover, if everyone was so smart in the USSR, why couldn't they make good cars and VCRs? Something is wrong here, and doesn't add up.


Myth 2: Soviet medicine was better

Obviously, the quality of medical care was worse in Soviet times.  It has always been worse when compared to decaying capitalist countries. Life expectancy in the USSR was lower than the "enemy" at all times.

Reasons for lower life expectancy are simple - lack of modern medicines and treatments. While every effort was being made to create the next warheads, citizens died without having access to advanced diagnostics or care.

Myth 3: Free housing

A common misconception about the USSR is that everyone lived for free. In fact, there was no free housing but cooperatives, which cost an average sum, payable through reasonable installments for 25 years. Everyone in the USSR had a roof over their head, but the quality of housing was horrible and inferior in quality. A
fter the collapse of the USSR, the owners of these apartments were faced with the need to privatize for big money, otherwise the housing became the property of the city. What, in general, makes housing better during Soviet times? Nothing.

sovok2

Myth 4: In the Soviet Union, there was no unemployment or homeless

The main problem here was the equalization of labor in low wages, where many people lived paycheck to paycheck, creating a low standard of living for the majority. It's better to provide economic incentives for high quality work, rather than simply handing people wages. The latter creates lazy and entitled workers. Side note from me: I dont' understand employment during Soviet times? How were people hired? They picked their own jobs, or the choice was made by the government?

Myth 5: The most powerful army in the world!

download

Classic point of discussion for lovers of the USSR! Yes, the Union had a strong army, to the "defense industry" money was never spared. The Soviet forces were greatly feared abroad, but there are two important points. (1) A strong army has no effect on the lives of ordinary people, except in the negative direction (when all power goes to the creation of tanks, there remains no funds for infrastructure and other improvements); and (2) the Armies of Western countries were no less strong.

Myth 6: Products and clothes were better in the USSR

sovok9
This is complete nonsense according to the author. In Soviet times, everything was worse with clothing and consumer choice. People wore shoes for ten years, and it was the same with all other clothes which were of poor quality. Remember how everyone was so desperate for Levis and other American jeans?

In his opinion, the absolute worst part of life in the USSR was the lack of choice in everything - education, work, food, clothing. Soviet citizens couldn't leave the country or really choose the accommodations which best fit their own personality, goals or comfort.  Individuality was suffocated. The government planned human life from birth to death. In general, it completely ruined the country and strangled motivation.

The author's final words - "God forbid that we all go back. Now we live a thousand times better." Do you agree?

P.S. - is the term "совок" offensive and derogatory, or it's okay to use?




[identity profile] kremlin-curant.livejournal.com 2015-09-20 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
I lived in the USSR for 33 years. Mostly agree with this guy. But actually there was really almost free housing and there was no unemployment.
As for the soviet army it's difficult to evaluate how strong it is except you are an expert or at least a foreigner whos country was invaded by this army.
People picked their jobs, not government did.
There were plenty opportunities to find the job with no or minimum special education. As for professions with the high level educations eg a doctor or a lawyer there was a law that after graduate your school you was guaranteed to get a job.
Eg while I was about to graduate my medical school ministry of health care of the USSR sent there as much job offers as amount of the students in my class (around 500).
We picked these offers starting with the best students. So I picked the Kostroma region and lived there for 4 years. You couldn't be fired for 3 years (the doctors for 4), you couldn't change the region with some exemptions and also your employer must provided you with accommodation to live. I did try to leave Kostroma because department of health care broke the law by not providing me with the place where I could live, but failed. So I moved to Sudislavl from Kostroma in the middle of my 4 years stint. Actually it was extraordinary event if somebody got fired at all. It was against the law don't work at all either.

But I'm pretty much sure the modern life in Russia is not too much better than in the USSR except is in Moscow, Peter and in couple other places. You must be know that because you visited the regions 300 miles away Moscow including my first job region Kostroma. (I either worked for 2 month in Chuhloma, did you visited it?)

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-09-21 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Chuhloma - no I didn't visit. But many of these towns still look like the USSR, with the hammer and sickle. This week, I will show Ivanovo, which is a bit depressive.

[identity profile] kremlin-curant.livejournal.com 2015-09-21 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
This is in Ivanovo I mostly lived in the USSR and graduated there from the medical school what brought me after in the Kostroma region.