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I don't understand why there is blackness in Crimea. What's going on? Is this some political game being played or really a problem with infrastructure? Meanwhile, I read the pro-Kremlin blog of Russian patriot [livejournal.com profile] politichanka, who is very friendly even though we have completely different political views. I read her blog, and sometimes communicate with her. She's upset the TV news remains silent about the difficult situation in Crimea...focusing only on Erdogan, Syria, Bandera, Nazis...enemies all around, instead of discussing problems within. I saw some photos in other posts where Crimean children are gathered in public places where a TV is placed, and they too are staring at the face of Putin on the news rather than watching cartoons or other child friendly programming. Meanwhile, I haven't seen this situation covered at all on major U.S. news channels. As usual, we are focused on problems within - yet another shooting in Colorado from what appears to be a religious, right wing wacko opposed to abortion. So many of these religious conservatives are opposed to immigrants or refugees, failing to recognize that extremism comes in all forms, including from their beloved brethren.

What's really happening in Crimea? Help me understand.

Date: 2015-11-28 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pro100-petrov.livejournal.com
Ukrainian nationalists want to liberate crimeans. That is why they are freezing them.

Date: 2015-11-28 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qi-tronic.livejournal.com
It's just Ukrainian mentality.

Date: 2015-11-28 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
What do you mean "Ukrainian mentality?" In what way do you think it differs?

Date: 2015-11-28 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qi-tronic.livejournal.com
Well ... it's hard to explain in a few words but I'll try.

Even in Soviet times Ukrainians were known for their attention for earthly material things.
They were a constant target for jokes for that.

They are greedy but not in a constructive way like, say, Germans, but sometimes in a ridiculous way.
They are ready to pick and store everything they can especially in cases when they see that it can be picked by others.
Just one example: managers of material stuff in Soviet Army were almost always Ukrainians.
They always had their warehouses full of all necessary and unnecessary stuff.

So in the situation of conflict their brain works in this direction: cut off the wires, stop supplying food, etc.
They also now have stopped paying pensions to pensioners in Donbass.

Russia had a much more severe war in Chechnya but the Russian government paid pensions to all there and thought about a military victory but never about a blockade.

That's a difference in mentality.

Date: 2015-11-28 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seadevil001.livejournal.com
Here is joke about it: One Khokhol (Ukrainian) found huge stash of apples. He start devouring apples and soon get full. Not being able to take all of apples vvith him he started to bite each one in the stash. If I cannot eat them all I vvill spoil them all, he thinks.

As vvith any good joke this is only part joke.

Date: 2015-11-28 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
It is not Ukraine's responsibility to keep Crimea warm.

Date: 2015-11-28 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pro100-petrov.livejournal.com
But this "warm" is comming from Russia across Ukraine. Its a russian electricity.

Date: 2015-11-28 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorli87.livejournal.com
It comes from Zaporizhzhya NPP

Date: 2015-11-28 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pro100-petrov.livejournal.com
Due to Russia. Russia is paying for this.

Date: 2015-11-28 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorli87.livejournal.com
Okey. We dont want to sell. Thats all

Date: 2015-11-28 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pro100-petrov.livejournal.com
1) You have to. We have got a kontrakt
2) I dont understand what do you want. To make krimeans to be loyal to Ukraina by freezing them? Dont you think, it is a wrong way?
Edited Date: 2015-11-28 06:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-11-28 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorli87.livejournal.com
Russia has a lot contracts and international agreements. How many of them Russia denounced?
Wrong way for what? For example Kyiv was destroyed before liberation in 1943. We just turn off the light in Crimea in 2015.

Date: 2015-11-28 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pro100-petrov.livejournal.com
Wrong way to fight for simpathy of krimeans.
>For example Kyiv was destroyed before liberation in 1943
Are you sure, thar mr Stalin is a proper politician to take an example by?

Date: 2015-11-28 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorli87.livejournal.com
Of coarse not. Thats why we just turn off the light

Date: 2015-11-28 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pro100-petrov.livejournal.com
But why??? You, guys, are telling that Krime is suffering under Russian occupation. So, it means that you have to support krimeans, not to harrass them. Which one of us is occupant?

Date: 2015-11-28 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorli87.livejournal.com
Have you read requirements of Majlis?

Date: 2015-11-28 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pro100-petrov.livejournal.com
To release a person, who was intended to detonate a bomb during 9 may demonstration? So, why do all the krimeans have to suffer for that?

Date: 2015-11-28 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorli87.livejournal.com
Yes, we collect all our fascists.

Date: 2015-11-28 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grimbik.livejournal.com
If they consider Crimea is being part of Ukraine, it's their responsibility. If they don't want to take any responsibilities regardign Crimea they should accept that it's Russia now.

Date: 2015-11-29 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theodorexxx.livejournal.com
According to Ukraine officials, Crimea is a part of Ukraine

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