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I don't understand this holiday in Russia. Is it merely a religious observation, or do people also exchange gifts on Orthodox Christmas as they do on New Year's? Congratulations to those who celebrate! I'm not sure how the Orthodox church observes Christmas day, or if it varies from the Christian rituals in the USA and Europe on 25 December, but I hope everyone has a festive day! Cheers from the USA! :) Please share Orthodox Christmas traditions in comments. I'm not religious and don't observe these holy days, but is interesting to learn about cultural distinctions for celebration.
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Date: 2016-01-07 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pro100-petrov.livejournal.com
Positively, this holiday is completely religious in Russia. But nevertheless, thank you for your congratulation.

Date: 2016-01-07 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
So for people who aren't religious, this is just an ordinary day? I guess they must also appreciate the holiday because it's a free day off from work. :)

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Date: 2016-01-07 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorli87.livejournal.com
Thank you! We dont make gifts in those days.

Date: 2016-01-07 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
You're welcome. I saw some of my Russian friends on Facebook posting photos of gifts this morning, so I got confused. But perhaps everyone has different family traditions.

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Date: 2016-01-07 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tropical-degree.livejournal.com
Since Old New Year is on 14 Th January, 6 of January was always Russian Christmas.
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Date: 2016-01-07 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Yes, I read about the significance of the day this morning because I couldn't remember why the Orthodox celebrate on 7 January. Now I remember. :)

Date: 2016-01-07 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] white-walker.livejournal.com
For me and many my friends there's not anything special about this day.

Date: 2016-01-07 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
This is a big cultural distinction, because in the U.S. Christmas is observed by both the religious and unbelievers. It has become a secular holiday in many ways, so that everyone can enjoy it.

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Date: 2016-01-07 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] masha-shamraeva.livejournal.com
It's an important holiday for religious people. Earlier I congratulated my religious grandmother and grandfather. Now for me it's just a day, when institutions do not work.

Date: 2016-01-07 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
So how do your grandparents celebrate? Just go to church services? Btw, I'm always amazed there are no chairs or benches in Orthodox churches, and that people stand for the entire service.

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Date: 2016-01-07 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bratyk.livejournal.com
Для большинства россиян - это обычный выходной из десяти ни кому не нужных нерабочих дней в начале января. Только небольшой процент православных посещают церковь.

Date: 2016-01-07 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
It's nice to have so many days off! I'm envious. :)

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Date: 2016-01-07 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] worobioff-ku.livejournal.com
Шеннон! С Рождеством Христовым, поздравляю Вас!Желаю крепкого сибирского здоровья,море любви и финансов!В подарок старинная русская меднолитая икона "Рождество Христово"!Image
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Date: 2016-01-07 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Thanks! :) But my Christmas celebration is over. My family observes Christmas on 25 December, and today I'm sitting at my desk at work, doing legal work. :)

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Date: 2016-01-07 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vladibo666.livejournal.com
Obviously, it is religious, I never seen gift exchanges on this day. But nevertheless, almost everybody (religious or not) participate - we don't want to miss a party opportunity. Dates difference in celebrating is due to the church changes from Julian to Gregorian calendar. However some orthodox confessions (russian, armenian, 5 or 6) never changed old dates to the new ones for the holiday observations. That is exactly shift in 14 days.

Date: 2016-01-07 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Okay! Have fun at your secular party. :)

Date: 2016-01-07 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pin-gwin.livejournal.com
I did not mention it, I have nothing to do with it. It is a religious date, not like big sales marathon finish in the US. Seriously, New Year is way better to celebrate for any faithful of faithless people. United we stand.

Date: 2016-01-07 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
So what day does your family celebrate and exchange gifts in the USA? On 25 December or New Year's? Because your children have grown up in Minnesota, right?

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Date: 2016-01-07 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elena-88888.livejournal.com
Hi, Shannon,
Thanks for congratulations!

I'm not so religious as to follow all the attributes and especially I'm very unsatisfied as for institution of church. Recent years most of all. I just have faith, I trust in God and just avoid another way of charging me off...

Here we have quite difficult situation with prices in complex with quality so I make big purchases mostly online so it's quite difficult to keep in secret. So New-Year, Christmas and other 363/364 days a year we can present each other with quite small gifts

And a picture for you - how people celebrate Christmas in Russia...

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Date: 2016-01-07 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
It is always good to have faith and hope in something, otherwise life becomes very dark and meaningless. Where does Putin attend church services? In Moscow, or some provincial area?

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Date: 2016-01-07 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lastochkanata.livejournal.com
Christmas at us - not only a holiday religious though in a basis the religious tradition lays.. The Majority of those who celebrates it, do not go to this day in church though can consider itself as believing people. In our family it is accepted to mark it, and we love it even more, than New year. Christmas - a holiday more silent and family. More magic. More sincere... Gifts to give really this day it is especially not accepted, as all is already presented in New year:).

Date: 2016-01-07 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Enjoy! I hope you and your family have a wonderful day! :)

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Date: 2016-01-07 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mat-uc.livejournal.com
We have 10 drinking days this winter.

Fucking crisis. No Alpes, no France and no Austria :(

Date: 2016-01-07 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
In other years you usually traveled during the long holiday? I feel bad for my Russian friends, who are not in a very difficult position due to the weakened ruble. Meanwhile, the dollar is very strong and it is a good time for Americans to travel. Life is unfair. :(

Date: 2016-01-07 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I don't envision you as a holy man. And what do you do on this day? Look at porn online? :))

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Date: 2016-01-07 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] al-lex-ey.livejournal.com
-I don't understand this holiday in Russia.
- It is Christmas. What is so strange?

-Is it merely a religious observation,
- Yes

-or do people also exchange gifts on Orthodox Christmas as they do on New Year's?
-Yes too.

Do you visit Church on Christmas eve? Many Russians do.

Date: 2016-01-07 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
For me, it's a big difference in the way Russians and Americans celebrate Christmas. In the U.S., Christmas is celebrated by all, even atheists. :)) It is both a secular and religious holiday. No, I don't attend church on any day of the year. I'm agnostic.

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Date: 2016-01-07 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilay-original.livejournal.com
Some people do celebrate (not many) but for the most it's just a cause to exchange warm wishes once again.
And proof of surviving wild new year celebration - for some of us :)

Probably this was the reason me and my friends were posting vintage postcards on facebook this night and exchanged with sms texts. Though none of us is at all religious.

Date: 2016-01-07 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
"Proof of surviving wild new year celebration..." :)) I can barely stay awake until midnight to ring in the New Year now that I'm older. :)

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Date: 2016-01-07 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onkel-hans.livejournal.com
On the twelfth day of Christmas ... ;)

Date: 2016-01-07 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
On the twelfth day of Christmas, Putin gave to me..... Could be an interesting version of the song. :))

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Date: 2016-01-07 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beloborodoff.livejournal.com
Christmas is not big event. Main holliday is New Year Eve it has all rituals as western Christmas. Also is Orthodox and Catolic churches likes Easter much more than Christmas.

Date: 2016-01-07 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Why is Easter more popular with the Orthodox? In the U.S., I think Christmas and Easter are equal for believers. They are both very holy days, marked in the church.

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Date: 2016-01-07 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slonopotamm.livejournal.com

This is just an ordinary day, no gifts, etc.

Date: 2016-01-07 05:23 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-01-07 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juan-gandhi.livejournal.com
Well. In the old days, when religion was at least under suspicion, the Christians went to the church, overnight; and in the morning came back and celebrated; others pretended that there's no such thing as Christmas.

Also, if you read Pushkin, there were some ancient rituals, pre-Christian.

These days the old habits are forgotten, and people just do what the tv tells them to do.

Date: 2016-01-07 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
And what does the TV tell them to do? Go to church, obey the master, suffer for the country? I can't watch most Russian TV due to language barriers. This is probably better for my sanity. :)
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Date: 2016-01-07 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perycalypsis.livejournal.com
Emptiness. But the mere thought of that
brings forth lights as if out of nowhere.
Had Herod but known the stronger he seemed,
the more sure, the more certain the wonder.
Every year this constant relation
is the basic machinery of Christmas.

Date: 2016-01-07 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Google tells me that this is Brodsky!

Date: 2016-01-07 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dkfl.livejournal.com
I think the primary reason to celebrate is 10 days long public holidays.
People needs to celebrate something :)

Date: 2016-01-07 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
This Russian holiday is sooooo long!!! What do you do during this time off of work?

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Date: 2016-01-07 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
New this year to the beginning of the year)
..that Christ on Christmas day of Christ's birth.
It is different holidays

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Date: 2016-01-07 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iiiko.livejournal.com
I'm not religious too.
We went today to the parents and their congratulations on Christmas. Good celebrated. It was fun.
I still do not know how to celebrate Christmas.
I do not understand how the same person can be born two times?
On 25 December and 7 January?
I think it is foolish to believe in Christmas.
What have modern humans in Europe and the United States to the ancient Palestinian folklore for more than 2000 years ago?

Date: 2016-01-08 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
"I do not understand how the same person can be born two times..." Good point! :) I'm glad you had a fun day with your parents!

Date: 2016-01-07 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julie-with-love.livejournal.com

I just recently wrote why Christmas is celebrated on the 7th of January in my blog here http://thefoodiemiles.com/why-christmas-in-russia-is-celebrated-on-the-7th-of-january/
And why new year is more popular than christmas here http://thefoodiemiles.com/why-new-year-is-more-popular-than-christmas-in-russia/
It's in english, hope it will be helpful))

Date: 2016-01-08 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Thanks! What a nice blog you have! Congratulations on your first Thanksgiving feast. :)

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