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A few weeks ago I went fishing with my family in a small country town close to DC. The purpose was not to catch dinner, but to offer a day of fun for my young nephew. At the small pond we visited there were a lot of boy scouts on a day excursion. I'm sure most of you are familiar with this organization, which started in 1910. The Boys Scouts of America provides programs for young boys that help develop personal character, community involvement and physical activity through outdoor events such as camping and fishing. I'm not sure if there is a similar organization in Russia?

More recently the organization is in the news because of its prohibition on gay scouts and leaders. Just today over 1,400 local leaders convened for a two day meeting where they will vote on whether to allow openly gay boys in the scouting movement. Of course, there also is constant debate on whether the organization should permit openly gay men to be Scout Leaders. However, this is not on the ballot at the current meeting.

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Anyone who reads me on a regular basis can certainly guess my opinion on the issue. What do you think? Is it okay to have openly gay boy scouts and leaders? The organization is based in Irving, Texas, probably the most right-winged and conservative State in America. I doubt the ban will be lifted, but it's good food for thought.

Date: 2013-05-22 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybathroom.livejournal.com
There was Pioneer movement in the USSR.

I don't think it's alright but that is their choice.

Date: 2013-05-22 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Were you a member of the organization? I received your message and will respond later. :)

Date: 2013-05-22 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybathroom.livejournal.com
Yes, I was. And I was in the Young Pioneer camp twice. Some children liked them but I didn't. All was soaked with ideology. I believe that it was politic organization but not for kids.

Date: 2013-05-22 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Interesting, I'll read about this Soviet organization. Thanks for telling me about it.
Edited Date: 2013-05-22 07:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-05-22 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybathroom.livejournal.com
You're welcome :)

Date: 2013-05-22 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_nevidimka/
Oh, it was a huge movement all were OBLIGED to participate in. It was a step in becoming (if all went excellent) a Party member: at 8 you became Oktyabrenok, then Poineer, then, as a teen, a Komsomolets...

It was really shameful not to become one or to be excluded.

Date: 2013-05-22 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_nevidimka/
...So I wouldn't call it the same as boyscouts. Yes, there were many good aspects of it, but only if it weren't obligatory...

Date: 2013-05-22 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarowind.livejournal.com
I hope the ban will not be lifted.

Before the revolution in Russia there was a scout organization. Many ideas have been written off from there pioneers and filled ideology.

Date: 2013-05-22 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarowind.livejournal.com
Russian scout, 1915y


Modern scouts

Date: 2013-05-22 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I knew your position on this matter. :) Thanks for the photos, and I'll keep you updated on the outcome of the vote.

Date: 2013-05-22 08:07 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-05-23 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarowind.livejournal.com
Mama told me when I was young
Come sit beside me, my only son
And listen closely to what I say.
And if you do this
It'll help you some sunny day. Oh Yah!
Oh, take your time... Don't live too fast,
Troubles will come and they will pass.
You'll find a woman, yea yea, you'll find love,
And don't forget son,
There is someone up above. (c ) Lynyrd Skynyrd - Simple Man

:)

Date: 2013-05-23 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Lynyrd Skynyrd! This is a real redneck band. But they're great! I've seen them in concert. Do you know Creedence Clearwater Revival (also known as CCR)? This is my favorite American classic rock band. Great songs.

Date: 2013-05-23 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarowind.livejournal.com
>> Do you know Creedence Clearwater Revival

Sure! Have you ever seen the rain? :)

Date: 2013-05-23 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Yes, but Bad Moon Rising is my favorite. Have a nice evening! :)

Date: 2013-05-23 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarowind.livejournal.com
Thank's:). Today was really hard day. A glass of dry red wine, good music and LJ - that's what I need :)

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