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peacetraveler22 ([personal profile] peacetraveler22) wrote2015-03-10 11:00 am

Platzkart Adventure!

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Many people often ask me "why Russia?" I can afford to travel to much nicer places and stay in more upscale accommodations, but to me there's no adventure in this. Complete boredom. With Russia, there's always something interesting! A complex puzzle to solve, new experiences each journey, and constant brain explosions and frustration with infrastructure and societal interactions as a whole. When I thought about visiting Kazan for a few days, there were two options to get there. Fly or take Russian Railways. I not only chose the latter, but decided to travel in a platzkart to get a true Russian experience. :) At first, I was a little nervous to ride the train dormitory style by myself. This uneasy feeling arose not from my own thinking, but from Russian friends when I posted a status update on Facebook that I would ride alone in a platzkart on the Railways. Responses included - "why?!?", "brave and wild!" and "are you crazy?" What did I think of the experience?

1. I think it's a good way for foreigners to travel if they wish to interact with locals, but not for comfort. The train from Moscow to Kazan was very old and shitty. Train number is 112мц. Avoid it! I'm not certain, but I think the final destination of the train wasn't Kazan but onward into the depths of Russia. The main problem for me is that it was a night train, and I was completely unprepared. Upon boarding, the lights on the train were out, cut on only for a few minutes when the train took off for the conductor to check tickets. After that, complete darkness. Most passengers immediately went to sleep and remained in silence all night. Besides the echoes of loud snores in the air, there was little movement or motion. No one to talk to, complete darkness, and zero outlets for phones or computers. For twelve hours, I sat in boredom, staring in blackness. I can't sleep in planes, trains, automobiles, or even a bed on most nights.

Salvation came in the wee hours of the morning when I encountered a handsome young man. At the sight of a young Russian face, there's always a glimmer of hope that the person will speak English. I asked him in Russian if he spoke the language, and his face lit up! Yes! For a few hours, we sat and chatted at the tiny table by my bunk. He had spent a summer in America, on the work/travel program sponsored by the U.S. government. Most important, he gave me food. I was starving, carrying with me no food or water for the long ride because I thought all trains had a dining car, where such items can be purchased. This train had nothing. No real food, only a dispenser for hot water. My new friend gave me a homemade meat pie and some instant mashed potatoes. Add hot water, and suddenly hunger pains subsided. So, I learned a proper lesson on how to travel on some Russian trains - bring boiled eggs, bread, potatoes and meat pies for survival. :)) And for some, I suppose vodka. After Yaroslavl, I will not touch this poison for a long time!

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2. The train from Kazan to Moscow was more modern. For this journey, I picked second class, a private room with four bunks. Of course, it was much nicer, and I was in a room with all females. Here's one of my bunk mates - a Russian fashionista with a sullen expression for the entire 12 hour train ride. All of the women were friendly, but there were language barriers so conversation was almost impossible. On the theme of trains, I attended a hockey game in Yaroslavl, where the local team is named "Lokomotiv." :) About Russian hockey, I can say it's more calm and civilized than the U.S. version. At least the game I watched - there were almost no fist fights. In most NHL games in the U.S., numerous brawls break out each game.

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3. After four trips to Russia, I think I have a lot of insight to offer foreigners traveling to the country. Perhaps I'll make a post about it sometime, but the most important thing is to learn the Cyrillic alphabet. Otherwise, you will be completely lost the entire time. In the train station in Moscow, there are almost no signs in English. The alphabet is easy to learn, with many letters and sounds similar to English. It will help you navigate on your own immensely, as a lot of basic Russian and English words overlap, or are very similar.

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You'll recall that when I traveled to the Sochi Olympics last year, I took a 24 hour train ride from Moscow to Adler. However, on that journey I was in a private, first class kupe with someone I knew. I've now traveled in all classes of the train - first and second class and dormitory style. Each has something unique to offer. When I arrived in Kazan, I had a long conversation with the hotel manager. I told him how I traveled to the city, and he was in complete amazement that a 42 year old American woman and lawyer would choose to travel in a platzkart. He told me he "hates Russian Railways," and would "rather sit in an airport for 10 hours than take the train." I think this is a bit of an elitist attitude. For me, train travel remains interesting and my impressions of Russian Railways mostly favorable. The most important thing is to research the train on which you will travel. They are not all created equal.

About Kazan, there will be a separate and detailed post. This is now my second favorite city - right behind St. Petersburg.

Do you take the train often? In which class do you travel? Any interesting or unusual experiences with bunk mates? I envision sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll on some of these journeys, especially for train rides lasting several days! :) Share fun stories in the comments. I will be amused and happy to read them.

I'm now back in the USA after a long plane ride home yesterday. Many stories about Russia to follow...stay tuned my dear readers! I've missed communicating with you the past two weeks!

P.S.: All photos in this post were taken on iPhone. Sorry, on this trip I was lazy with the big camera.

Other Train Stories
Romance on the Rails - Wolstzyn, Poland
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Sapsan Train to St. Petersburg
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American Journey to Sochi: Train Ride from Moscow to Adler
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[identity profile] valkirya77.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
))))
cool story))

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! How many times have you traveled on the train?

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не каждый рискнет в плацкарте проехать))

[identity profile] vitokro.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
А что тут такого?

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Это ещё что...

[identity profile] udikov.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Поезд Киев-Москва. 3 января 2010 года

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Не то, чтобы я замёрз - утеплился одеялами и спал вполне сносно, лишь иногда просыпаясь от тающих на лице снежинок. Утром был впечатлён сугробом возле подушки (снег скатился вниз небольшой лавиной) и тем, что матрас наглухо примёрз к стене. Мне повезло - я был на верхней полке. А внизу действительно была жесть - посидев 5 минут возле окна, я капитулировал - одел куртку и ещё долго отогревался чаем. Большой привет руководству РЖД.

Зы: Остальные фото, увы, не сохранились...

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Kiev-Moscow train. January 3, 2010

Not that I froze - are insulated blankets and slept tolerably well, only occasionally waking from melting snowflakes on his face. Morning was impressed snowdrift near the pillow (snow slid down a small avalanche) and the fact that the mattress tightly primёrz the wall. I was lucky - I was on the top shelf. And at the bottom was really tin - 5 minutes after sitting near the window, I surrendered - wore a jacket and was heated for a long time tea. A big hello to the heads of Railways.

PS: The other photo, alas, have not survived ...

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[identity profile] e-g-o-r-i-u-s.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Охтыжблин! Вот это да! Это можно на открытку старику Якунину.

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[identity profile] egorov.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
platzkart - is a true-true-true russian lifestyle

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On this trip, I experienced a lot of "true-true Russian lifestyle." Especially in the village, which I will write about later. :)

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Hoooray!!!

[identity profile] pin-gwin.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
You did it!!!!

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[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I survived! It was not so bad, just very boring for me. During the day, it would be more interesting. I would have tried to talk to people, and could have taken more photos of fellow passengers.

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[identity profile] vitokro.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
>In which class do you travel?
We do not use term "class" for old "sleep" trains. We use "platzkart", "Kupe"(four beds and door, your trip from Kazan to Moscow), "SV"(two beds and door).
I like platzkart, because it is for times cheaper than kupe and it is more comfort for me. I do not like travel in kupe with strangers, it is so many problems. If someone want to change clothes - you have to leave kupe. It is more boring in kupe. in platzkart you can watch everyone and everything in the car, sometimes this is funny.
I like kupe only if i travel with 3 friends - so we can occupy kupe by ourselves.

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I used the correct terms "platzkart" and "kupe" in most of the post. :)) Even in platzkart, I saw some people changing clothes right in the open, not privately. Men were sitting shirtless, older women were putting on pantyhose, etc. Maybe in summer time, when it's hot, people sit on the train naked? :)) This would be a great photo opportunity! :)

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[identity profile] old-perduccio.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
The train interior and the hot water dispenser unit look exactly the same as they had looked in my Soviet childhood :)

[identity profile] ski-traveller.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Так и есть. За последние 20-30 лет в конструкции плацкартных вагонов почти ничего не изменилось.

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[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! More stories to come. :)

[identity profile] autumn-rainy.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
trains are fun, but yeah, can be dangerous too. when I was a teenager we traveled to Sochi for vacations every summer, and my Mom always insisted we go with kupe instead of plazkart because she was afraid some men might try to take advantage of me. i slept like a baby on the trains, just waking up to eat, read a book for a little while and use the restroom, probably saving up the energy for the sleepless party nights :) aaaw these were good times :)

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm always traveling with men, and I don't think they really understand the safety concerns of women when traveling, esp. for a female traveling alone. But I felt safe on the train. No problems. Just have to be cautious of your surroundings and personal belongings.

[identity profile] pivovaroffs.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Kupe is most common class in Russia. Platzkart will disappear soon and will be replaced by two-storey kupe trains (at least Russian railway plans to do so).
You can buy a food on many way-stations, but you need to have a ruble cash and hurry.

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
On the Sapsan and long journey to Russia, there were nice dining cars on both trains. I thought all trains have them, but I learned this is not the case.

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[identity profile] nar-row.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
So, you like platzkart carriages after all? :)
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[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
It wasn't so bad. :) In a way, it's good because there is more space to move around but it can grow tiresome to listen to people snoring all night and staring at the stinky feet of strangers. :)) And some men sat shirtless on the train.

[identity profile] a000796.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
just one last step toward complete nirvana - to share such a coach for few days with a bunch of demobs coming home after military service :)

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I can only imagine! :)

[identity profile] drfunfrock.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
a Russian fashionista with a sullen expression for the entire 12 hour train ride.

:) Not suleen, i think. Serious. 'I'm not a child, everyone must see, that I think only about very important things'.

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I think she was sad. Maybe she just broke up with her boyfriend? The other women were smiling and tried to communicate with me. They were very curious to have an American woman in their kupe. :)

[identity profile] tropical-degree.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Плацкарт!
Magic train culture!
Tea
Chicken in aluminium
Apples..., changing stations.
Romantic:))

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Train travel is completely normal for Russian culture, but not for American culture. We drive almost everywhere, and very few people take trains.

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[identity profile] megawiz.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
> I envision sex
Once upone a time in a far travelling train I have had sex during all the journey, about 40 hours. We were twosome in the coupe and conductors had come to look at us as frequent as possible. Later we married.
That was the only train journey without boredom.

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool, congratulations! :) Most American teenagers are having sex in cars, not trains. :))

[identity profile] e-g-o-r-i-u-s.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
As some readers here say, platzkart cars are likely to disappear in in the near future (at least, there are talks about it), and I would strongly oppose it. People need choice, and for some people and for some situations that would be an optimal choice. For example, if I make my way to a place where I will have a bicyclic hike and intend to sleep in a tent for a week or so, the comfort in the train is the last thing I would think of. I'd better save some money. And the same is applicable to any ride which lasts for just one night (in the late evening you board, in the morning you arrive) - all I personally need is a bench to sleep for these 6-8 hours, nothing more. So, I travel mostly in such platzkart cars (when it is not so long to go) and would be upset if they disappear.

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know there's a movement to get rid of the platzkarts. It seemed to me that most people traveling dormitory style were young students, or older people who can't afford the kupes.

[identity profile] lazicka.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
О, плацкарт!.. Студенческая молодость!.. Ностальгия!..
Thank you for this story, it made me remember so many sleepless and sleepy nights I've spent on such trains )))
So sorry you had to starve! I used to always take a pack of сушки and a bar of chocolate on a train, such small "indulgence" of mine ))
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[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Nostalgia is good! Glad I brought back some pleasant memories for you. :) Have you traveled on an American train? I've never been on Amtrak.

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Наши поезда самые поездатые

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[identity profile] amigocar.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Mostly Russian readers love you Shannon for your unusual style of trip

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I try to live as the locals do, to the greatest extent possible. That's why I decided to travel in platzkart, even though I could easily afford to fly to Kazan, or stay in a private kupe.

[identity profile] onkel-hans.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Once I took a train from Moscow to Venice. In those days, there suddenly happened a war in Yugoslavia and the train was rerouted via Vienna. The Austrians requested transit visas from train passengers, so practically very few travelers were accepted on board. I turned out in a compartment with a young secretary girl alone. She had sort of a bonus vacation to Venice from her company. Fortunately her name was Lena, so we went in town in Budapest to take a breath and missed our train with all our stuff in the car.
As I know some practical Hungarian, we managed to take the next train towards Vienna. We recovered our our baggage at the border crossing station. Everything was intact but a couple of bottles of vodka were missing from my travel bag.
Then we got to Vienna, a city I know well. The train we had tickets for was gone and we had to take a local train to Venice next day. Actually I was going not to Venice but to a small village on the Lake north of Milano. It was quite a problem booking a new ticket to that station as nobody in Vienna could find it on the railroad map. In Venice I kissed Lena goodbye and continued to Milano.
Milano, you should know, has a grandioso fascist style central station. I admire that station better than the Grand Central in NYC. And there, in Milano I had a real adventure! I like walking in strange places in new towns. Once - it was in Rotterdam - I even had met the people I could not speak with - they spoke neither German, nor French and even English. I understand the Dutch after having six pints of beer but cannot speak it. This time, it was the lunch time and I could not find a different place to eat than Wendy's! In Milano!!! Yet I made a discovery. I went in a bookstore and there was an artist's album that touched all the string of my soul at once. I had never heard of this artist. I decided to buy a better album of his back in Vienna but when I came to Vienna, nobody in the bookstores had ever heard his name!!! Otto Dix turned out to be a German.

So this is it about traveling the Russian Railroads.

Hey, there was one adventure more! On the train back to Moscow, as we crossed the border with Poland, I met an immigrant into Russia! The passport control police would not believe their eyes either. But he was emigrating from Poland to Russia permanently.
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[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Your story reminds of the film "Before Sunrise." Do you know it? " I understand the Dutch after having six pints of beer..." Ha! I can speak Russian much better after several shots of vodka! :)) I sometimes wonder why any American would want to immigrate to Russia. For what reason? For a Pole, the cultures are more closely aligned but American and Russian culture are completely alien to each other.

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[identity profile] seadevil001.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Platzkart is safest way to travel, IMO. Everyone is visible and if trouble starts people can intervene early and alert authorities. I travel railroads a lot and without any significant troubles. Once I made trip with dog (English pointer) in platzkart (Tashkent to Moscow and then Belgorod). No problem at all! Most memorable was travel from Moscow to Tashkent on Dec.31. Drank largest amount of vodka then in single setting.
BTW, generally speaking trains with smaller numbers are better maintained and faster than trains with 3 digit numbers. Number set priority for train in situations were decision should be made who is going first. Smaller numbers are higher in hierarchy.

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Moscow to Tashkent How many days does this take? I understand why people drink on the train. Boredom can easily set in, esp. in platzkart where there are no plugs for electronic devices and you can't watch movies on laptop, etc. I agree this open dormitory style travel is safer. I thought about it when I was in the private kupe. What if I had been in the cabin with all men? It's my understand that the kupes can have both genders. I think I would have been uncomfortable traveling by myself with three men in the kupe.

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[identity profile] qui11.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Shanon, your idea of train sounds very romantic to me and I do share it in a way)) But I travel quite often, as my daughter studies in Novosibirsk and I live in Tyumen and railway's the easiest way to get there. Unfortunately I am always having very opposite experience. I am always having a lot of very talkative mates around. I want to read or watch something and they always talk. It's so tiresome!

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
You should travel on the night train! The only sounds you will hear are snores. Everyone was asleep most of the ride! :) In general, I find that most Russians speak in a very loud voice so I understand how it could become annoying over time to listen to many conversations for hours and hours.

[identity profile] mjol1nir.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I learned a proper lesson on how to travel on some Russian trains - bring boiled eggs, bread, potatoes and meat pies for survival. :))

Fuck that!
Especially if you travel not so long time and distance.
I hated moments when people at the same time unbox their eggs and chickens and started to consume that. Smells like teen spirit in a cheapest restaurant.

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"Smells like teen spirit..." Haha! This is a great comment. :)))

пора писать мемуары

[identity profile] andrey-kaminsky.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Travel in the platzkart don't bring pleasure as did before 8) In the 90s, when people were poor, many haven't had the money to pay for bed linen, they were not allowed to use mattresses, these people were sleeping in their clothes on the hard shelves. Conductors often sold the third level of shelves to extra passengers at half the price, there were lying people also. All this fun was accompanied by drunkenness. After traveling in such train, people perceived Indian attack on a train in the days of the Wild West as child's play.

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[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Even now, this part of the train is mostly occupied by young or very old people. I'm not sure I can handle travel on an Indian train; however, it's mandatory if you truly want to experience Indian culture. I would probably die from heat suffocation, as I almost do in all Russian hotels and trains in winter time. Why do they keep rooms so warm??

Miami!

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[identity profile] eugene (from livejournal.com) 2015-03-10 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
you are really brave and wild)))

[identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com 2015-03-10 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It's necessary! Otherwise, life grows boring and monotonous. :))

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