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Almost two years ago, I wrote a post with a question in the title "What is Love?" The post discussed a monumental Supreme Court decision in favor of gay rights, which granted Federal benefits to same-sex couples in States that recognized gay marriages. It was clear at the time that America's mentality on this issue had shifted dramatically in the last decade. Just moments ago, this was further confirmed when the U.S. Supreme Court issued one of the most anticipated decisions of this term. A monumental victory, holding that gay marriage will now be legal in EVERY U.S. State. The basic outcome of the decision is that States no longer have the authority to reserve marriage rights only to heterosexual couples.

For me, it's absolutely the right outcome, although I understand that most Russians have a completely different view on this topic. Just today I read a post by [livejournal.com profile] popados, with over 600 comments, many of which are filled with hate and a rather savage mentality about gays, in my opinion. I will never understand how what someone does in their OWN bedroom impacts others. Personally, I advocate for love between two consenting adults, regardless of the form in which it arises. The fact that two men or two women wish to marry and share their lives together has absolutely no impact on me in any way. Many people often climb into the comments claiming that gays want "special" rights, but this Supreme Court decision is not about that. It grants only EQUAL rights, nothing more. It's no secret that I fully support the gay community, I have many gay friends who have had lifelong partners, a few have even adopted children. They live as normal families, going about their daily lives, loving their child, going to the park, grocery store, etc. There's nothing hedonistic or perverse about the manner in which they conduct themselves. Look here, two women, in love for 31 years, sharing their lives together. Why should they be denied the right to marry?

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In all honestly, I became disgusted reading the comments in the post by [livejournal.com profile] popados, but I found one to be very profound and intelligent:

"Пост хороший. Спасибо. А большинство комментариев - как всегда дерьмо. Поразительно, сколько людей живут в невежестве, гордятся этим невежеством и выставляют его напоказ. Такое чувство, что гомофобам в жизни больше гордиться нечем, кроме как своим гетеросексуальным либидо. Тыкают себя пальцем в грудь и орут, посмотрите, какой я мужик, посмотрите, какой я мужик. Будто бы сами в этом сомневаются и пытаются лишний раз убедить себя. Очевидно, другие попытки доказать себе свою силу с треском провалились, поэтому надо отыграться на тех, кто слабее.

У меня в институтские годы было двое друзей, гетеросексуальных парней. Они общались со мной на равных, и это никак не повлияло на их самооценку. Они не считали общение со мной зашкваром. И я их за это очень уважаю. Они доказали, что сила человека, мужчины в частности, определяется иными критериями.

А всяким там товарищам, которые, растя своих детей, уверены в том, что их дети никогда не будут гомосексуалами, хочу сказать одно. Вас таких мечтателей - вагон и маленькая тележка. Только природа всё по своим местам расставляет, и вас, дураков, не спрашивает. И если природой будет положено, что ваш ребёнок будет геем, значит, так тому и быть, и ничего вы с этим не сделаете, даже если изобьёте своё дитя до кровавых соплей. Я понимаю, почему вы беситесь. Вы - невежды, и вы считаете, что гомосексуальность - следствие неправильного воспитания, и потому, если ваш ребёнок оказывается геем, вы считаете себя хреновым родителем, это бьёт по вашему самолюбию. Вы-то, несомненно, планировали вырастить идеального ребёнка, а тут такая подстава. Вы злитесь, но злость ваша порождена всё тем же тотальным невежеством, откровенно дерьмовым образованием в этой области. Вы начинаете мучить себя и своего ребёнка, вместо того, чтобы взять в руки хорошую книгу или обратиться за разъяснением к специалисту, вместо того, чтобы получить какие-то знания на этот счёт.

Вам нравится ваше невежество, потому что оно даёт вам повод чувствовать себя сильным, не прилагая реальных усилий для того, чтобы стать сильным. Вы чувствуете себя сильными, потому что родились гетеросексуальными. Это очень удобно - чувствовать силу, палец о палец не ударив, чтобы её получить. Вы чувствуете себя первым сортом, состоявшейся личностью, только потому, что спите с людьми противоположного пола, вы чувствуете, что, слава богу, нашлись в этом мире люди, гомосексуалы, которые хуже вас. Это удобно, когда ты стоишь выше кого-то, но не приложил никаких усилий для этого статуса.

Однако, грустная правда состоит в том, что вы всё равно слабаки. И как личности вы не состоялись. Потому что вы гордитесь тем, что вам дано природой, вместо того, чтобы гордиться тем, чего вы достигли собственным потом. Очевидно, что второго в вашей жизни просто нет. А гомосексуалы живут и чувствуют свою силу, потому что вы превращаете их жизнь в филиал ада на земле своими вонючими советами на предмет как жить, что делать и как себя вести, а они всё равно живут, и есть у них в жизни свои маленькие радости. И для того, чтобы чувствовать свою силу, им не требуется унижать вас, достаточно и того, чтобы, не смотря на весь тот филиал ада на земле, который вы им устраиваете, чего-то достичь в жизни. И потому, пока вы не излечитесь от своей гомофобии, они всегда будут в разы сильнее вас. А вы, неспособные справиться со своими средневековыми рефлексами, так и будете слабаками."

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I'm not trying to imply that the American viewpoint or mentality should make its way to Russia, I'm only highlighting a huge distinction between our cultures and mentalities on a basic human rights issue. Russia and its citizens are free to dictate their own society, laws and regulations. However, on this day, I'm very proud to be an American. To live in a country that advocates for love between consenting adults, in all forms.

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Just moments ago, the official Facebook page of the White House posted this photo. This was a rather provocative move, which angered many in the comments.

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In the U.S. today, many people will hug their wife, husband, boyfriend or girlfriend and celebrate this victory for love! Have a nice weekend! :)



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Озорник!

Date: 2015-06-26 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrey-kaminsky.livejournal.com
Do you warn americans that they have never suck Vladimir,s dick like you do?
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Date: 2015-06-26 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caramba-hola.livejournal.com
This news is not important for me. I do not care about gays. If they want to be married - knock themselves out. But I am against of homopropoganda for kids.

Date: 2015-06-26 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
What do you consider "propaganda?" I think this term is too subjective. For instance, what about a children's book with a story about a family consisting of same-sex parents? Is this propaganda?

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Date: 2015-06-26 06:46 pm (UTC)
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America has forgotten or doesn't want to believe that the Biblical story of burnt Sodom and Gomorrah - a reality. America, repent, for the Kingdom of heaven!

Date: 2015-06-26 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quelopario.livejournal.com

That reminds me  http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo

Date: 2015-06-26 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] very-very-lucky.livejournal.com
I'm proud to be American. It'm sure my children would not understand now equal rights for gays were questioned in the first place.

Date: 2015-06-26 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Yes, I agree. It will be hard for future generations to understand the controversy, just as it was hard for me to understand how in my parent's time it was completely taboo for black and whites to date each other. I don't think it's a big deal for today's kids, esp. where I live. They are used to seeing gay parents at school, bi-racial children, mixed marriages, etc. They only learn to hate if they are fed with these stereotypes and animosity by their parents. Most children accept people as they are, as long as they are nice and friendly.

Date: 2015-06-26 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theodorexxx.livejournal.com
What do rednecks at Alabama think about gay marriage? When will we see the first gay redneck couple?

p.s: Russia is not ready for gay prides and marriage

Date: 2015-06-26 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
You think there are no gay rednecks? :) There are plenty, just as there are plenty of gay Russians. Maybe even some of your family, co-workers or friends.

Date: 2015-06-26 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] homo virus (from livejournal.com)
Как хорошо что в Америке столько пидарасов обоих полов, это значит что пиндостану скоро писец....

Date: 2015-06-26 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
And what do you think? If you come here, that gays will try to indoctrinate you, force you to watch them have sex, etc.? They are simply trying to live their lives and find happiness, the same as all humans.

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Date: 2015-06-26 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quelopario.livejournal.com

It looks weird that Russians 20% of whom grew up in single sex families (mom and grandma) are so homophobic.

Date: 2015-06-26 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Yes, apparently it's better in their mind for a child to grow up with a raging alcoholic father, or singer mother, because this is still a "traditional" family (man and woman, or woman only). In my view, a "family" can be many things. There is no single definition or construction of the term. The main thing is that you grow up in a loving, supporting environment.

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Date: 2015-06-26 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prischelech.livejournal.com
Это заслуга Обамы! Теперь белые плодиться перестанут и в скором времени Америка станет только для гуталина!

Date: 2015-06-26 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Gays make up less than 2% of the U.S. population, so this is doubtful.

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Date: 2015-06-26 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi, Shannon!

What do you think, whether it's in values of freedom or not, when federal goverment, without any parlamentary process, starts force citizens to raise their children in a such way, what only a decade ago would be considered as madness? And what if take off Obama from the office, and turn of all goverment support for pro-gay agenda (like mandatory pro-gay books in schools libraries and overall pushing of idea that pro-gay means "good citizen," anti-gay - "bad unlawful citizen"), will gay agenda be still supported by people, or it will go down?

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Date: 2015-06-26 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I don't have kids, so you will have to explain to me how the Federal government is forcing you to raise them in a way you don't like. I don't keep up with parental news or issues.

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Date: 2015-06-26 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serval-70.livejournal.com
Уродами земля полнится.
Психические и физические отклонения стали нормой.
Что будет следующим? Браки с животными?

Date: 2015-06-26 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
An animal can't consent to marriage, so this is unlikely. Why is being gay a mental disability?

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Date: 2015-06-26 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serval-70.livejournal.com
Как думаете, разрешат ли в США проведение парада гетеросексуалов, публично демонстрирующие свои предпочтения?
Думаю нет, так как будет считаться дискриминацией меньшинств.

В США , на самом деле, подвергаются дискриминации традиционные ценности.

Date: 2015-06-26 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Who prohibits you from living a traditional life in the USA? This is still the norm. About gay parades, I do not care. It's simply a celebration. If you don't want to join, don't go or participate In my mind, it's no different than any other parade like St. Patrick's Day parades where drunken people run around pretending to be leprechauns. :))

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Date: 2015-06-26 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inplan.livejournal.com
Во все времена это было вне рамок культуры, так и в будущем будет. А сегодняшнее помешательство пройдет

Date: 2015-06-26 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] el-set.livejournal.com
Историю в ЦПШ учили? Или жертва ЕГЭ?

Date: 2015-06-26 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] el-set.livejournal.com
I think this is a very correct decision. And it certainly will go down in history not only US but also around the world.

Date: 2015-06-26 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zanudavredina.livejournal.com
For many Russians the gay marriage means the moral decay of our society. They are seriously concerned that their children may also be gay. And no facts are able to overcome this archaic fear.
People often resist something new. Your society went on to such decisions over many years. In our much more traditional society, people objectively are not willing to reconsider their positions. I'm also a gay rights follower, being a bisexual. But I can't understand why this theme is stirring up everywhere.
The idea is good, of course. But in our country you will never know the result of good intentions.

Sorry for my english, which is not perfect :))

Date: 2015-06-26 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamschik.livejournal.com
Yes, White House! Go, White House!:) I am so glad to hear that. This is time to be gay!:)
I remember, a few years ago, in one of gay bars I saw American flag and asked bartender, what did it mean in the context. He said, "It's American to be gay". - And I asked him, "Is it gay to be American?":) Now, it is. About Russia, I think, on the top of natural ignorance and xenophobia came propaganda; whatever happens, it blames gay people, and Obama. In other words, propaganda channels peoples' anger and fears, away from real culprits.

Date: 2015-06-26 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notabler.livejournal.com
Well done, America! I'm proud of you)

Date: 2015-06-26 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naysayer15.livejournal.com
hahaha It seems to be the only pre-election promise fulfilled by this communist moron Obama. At least, the queers are happy :)

Date: 2015-06-27 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 10-4.livejournal.com
Happy... meaning gay? :))))

Date: 2015-06-26 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popados.livejournal.com
congrats to gay-community!))

Date: 2015-06-26 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madriatiko.livejournal.com
It's mean: Hilary Clinton next president of USA :((((( not good news.

Date: 2015-06-26 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] botkh.livejournal.com
Congratulations on this day! This is a great day to equality. Not only for US but for all over the world.

USA are not for free people from now

Date: 2015-06-26 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aleksi udovichenko (from livejournal.com)
You asked earlier: for what go as a tourist from America to Russia.
Now I can answer: If you are tired of hypocrites, if you don't really think gays are normal people, you can come to Russia and be among people who will not condemn you. Almost nobody will reprobate you if you do not really think homo-people are normal.

Russia is territory of normal people.
They feel freedom here.

Ну это вы заврались

Date: 2015-06-27 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrey-kaminsky.livejournal.com
"They feel freedom here"(c) - under the rule of a Fearless Leader!)

Date: 2015-06-26 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wise-gorilla.livejournal.com
So, how long till America starts bombing other countries in the name of gay rights?

Date: 2015-06-27 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qi-tronic.livejournal.com
Yes, it's the most interesting question now.
Americans have a very bad habit to pretend to be missionaries to places where nobody ask their opinion...

Date: 2015-06-26 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
I have nothing against gays and lesbians.
But they are already in the parliaments of many countries, and in 15 to 20 years in the US, in Europe, they pass laws "ban on having children" "," a ban on marriage between men and women. "


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Date: 2015-06-26 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-nimaida.livejournal.com
pre-election move witch Hillary Clinton
Now it will choose for president
and it will be a nuclear war against Russia ...

Shannon wrote earlier that does not support same-sex marriage
but the American Propaganda stronger than Russia)))

Date: 2015-06-27 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whenawake.livejournal.com
Good news! I see so many glad, happy people on foto today.
I'm from Russia and I was born and grown up here, but I think, that some question isn't of American or Russian mentality - but it's question of humanistic mentality
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