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Сегодня мое внимание вновь привлекла тема о невестах в "подарочной обертке". Сразу оговорюсь, что я никоим образом не собираюсь осуждать этих женщин, ведь они вольны распоряжаться своей жизнью, как им заблагорассудится. В сети есть сотни вебсайтов с глянцевыми фотографиями женщин из России, Украины и стран Восточной Европы, которыми объявлена тотальная охота на принцев закордонных. Носы же дельцов от туризма быстро просекли фишку и стали массово отправлять американцев за моря и акияны - на вечеринки со стайками потенциальных избранниц: все как одна - на ходулях, в боевой раскраске и в платьях, мало чем отличающихся от поясов. Ко всему прочему, общение с этими куколками в большинстве случаев весьма затруднено из-за языкового барьера. Одним из самых популярных сайтов подобной тематики является AnastasiaDate.com. Для начала я предлагаю вам полистать анкеты и фотографии с этого сайта, а также посмотреть короткий трейлер к документальному фильму про брачные агентства - "Люби меня".

Я решила поискать аналогичный сервис для американок, вожделенно ищущих своего русского царевича, но, увы и ах, успехом мои поиски так и не увенчались. Зато я нашла сайт для женихов из России, стремящихся стать единым целым с невестами из других стран. :) smile emoticonУвы, но это всего-навсего одна страница, на которой выбор русских парней ограничивается... количеством пальцев одной руки. Детали происхождения кого бы то ни было для меня мало что значат: я встречалась с украинцем, словаком и другими белыми мужчинами, а вот русский, с кем бы мне захотелось провести всю свою жизнь, мне так и не повстречался. Да и не могу я себе представить влюбленность в человека, с кем общаться пришлось бы на уровне "твоя-моя-мало-мало-понимать". Для мужины, наверное, такой вариант был бы идеальным: красивая и молчаливая жена! smile emoticon :) Для меня же одной из основ для взаимоотношений является возможность вдумчиво поговорить с умным человеком на множество тем о том и сем.

Интересно, почему американки не ищут русских возлюбленных с настойчивостью отправляющихся за тридевять земель, чтобы заманить невест в США, американцев? Мне кажется, что культурные различия во взаимоотношениях полов слишком разительны, возможно даже, что роман американки с русским вообще крайне маловероятен, хотя в любви, конечно, всякое может случиться...

Ведь должны же быть какие-то преимущества отношений с русскими парнями! О чем я не знаю? :))smile emoticon


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Date: 2016-01-12 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] korneev14.livejournal.com
cause we are wild and strong! )))

Date: 2016-01-12 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
And you think American men are boring? :)

Date: 2016-01-12 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] korneev14.livejournal.com
I dont think about American men..... )))

Date: 2016-01-12 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sun-jr.livejournal.com

Pretty good documentary. I do like it. Sad thing, most of girls are gold diggers. I felt bad about those American guys.

Date: 2016-01-12 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] south-of-broad.livejournal.com
Got my popcorn ready))))

Date: 2016-01-12 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aborigen72.livejournal.com
Как хорошо проснуться одному
http://mp3davalka.com/get/Aleksandr-Vertinskiy-Kak-horosho-prosnutsya-odnomu-V-svoem-vesyolom-holostyatskom-flete.mp3?type=s&aid=9839&sid=6725575&dur=223
Edited Date: 2016-01-12 05:36 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-01-12 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perycalypsis.livejournal.com
Mr. Kissinger! What is "shuttle diplomacy"?
- Oh! This is a universal method! Let me explain with an example. You want to use shuttle diplomacy to marry Rockefeller's daughter to a simple guy from a Russian village.

- It's impossible! How would you do that?

- Very simple. I'm going to a Russian village, I find
there is a simple guy and ask:

- Do you want to marry an
American lady?

He says: "We've got great
girls here!

And I say: "Yes, but she is a daughter of a billionaire. "

He goes: "Oh! This changes everything.
"

Then I go to Switzerland to a
bank's board meeting. I
asked them: "Do you want a Siberian peasant to be your bank's President?"

And the bank people say: "No way!".

- But what if he is Rockefeller's
son-in-law?

- Oh! This changes everything!

So I go to Rockefeller and ask:
"Would you like your daughter to marry a Russian peasant?"

He says: "In my family we
are all the financiers!

So I go: "But what if he is
a president of a Swiss bank!"
- Oh! This changes everything! Susie! Come here. Mr.
Kissinger has found a good fiance for you. He's a president of a Swiss bank! "

Susie: "All those
financiers are weaklings!"

I say: "Perhaps, but he is a Siberian macho
man."

Susie: "Oh! This changes everything! "

Date: 2016-01-12 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I don't feel sorry for them. Most of the time, the men are old and they bring over very young brides. I don't think these men are so naive that they can't understand the woman's true intentions (citizenship and better life). If true love develops in the long term, it's just an added bonus. The most important thing in their minds is physical appearance and a traditional sense of obedience from a woman. For this, they are willing to pay a high price. Just supply and demand. :) The basics of business or any contract.

Date: 2016-01-12 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Haha, it's late in the evening. :) Hopefully the trolls are in the bar still celebrating the long holiday, and away from the sofa. But I seriously do wonder why an American woman would date a Russian man. I've never seen this romantic pairing before with any of my friends.

Date: 2016-01-12 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
And you think about American women? Or, we are too plain, wild and disobedient for you? :))

Date: 2016-01-12 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buddhistmind.livejournal.com
Ukrainian girls are the prettiest on the Earth. Only the Swedish, Polish and Brazilian ones could compare to them.

I think it's perfectly OK for a Ukrainian girl to date a foreign person she likes, and in addition get the citizenship and all the benefits of being a citizen of the "1st world". Build her new life in an environment suited for humans, not orcs.

You surely can find sites , where American women search for Arabian, Japanese, Italian or Chinese "princes" - guess why ? Russia isn't "prestigious" )

Date: 2016-01-12 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I don't notice much difference between Ukrainian and Russian women honestly. It seems the Ukrainian girls dress even more provocatively than Russian females, at least based on my time in Kyiv. Maybe this is because I visited Ukraine in summer time, when they weren't covered in coats. I think Finnish women are beautiful and I like Latinas. So, I have diverse taste when it comes to female beauty - both light and dark skinned. :))

Date: 2016-01-12 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Missing? Love. That's what. I guess. With a man, Russian or not.

Here, in comments, you have dozens of cerebral conversations with Russian men!

Date: 2016-01-12 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] korneev14.livejournal.com
but its interesting and notboring ))))

Date: 2016-01-12 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
I'm surrounded by love at all times...the only thing I'm missing is sex. This is a travesty for a woman who is in her sexual prime! :))

Russian? How about others?

Date: 2016-01-12 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pin-gwin.livejournal.com
I would extend the scope - is it possible to be happy in a marriage if you are culturally very different? How much adaptation you are ready to do and expect from your partner? How much both partners patriotism-exceptionalism will be an issue? Religious-ethical differences? What could fix and align it?
The only answer is love....

Date: 2016-01-12 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Yes, I agree! :) I don't understand the appeal of dating a woman who does everything you say, or has no opinion or personal hobbies other than pleasing you...boring!

Re: Russian? How about others?

Date: 2016-01-12 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Yes, but there are some cultures where gender variations are much stronger than others. For instance, I don't see much difference between dating relationships in Western Europe and America. For me, the biggest obstacle is religion. I could not date an evangelical.

Date: 2016-01-12 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
:)) I have yet to encounter a Siberian man! :))

Date: 2016-01-12 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kichiro-sora.livejournal.com
>Today the topic of mail-order brides came up again. I don't judge these women in any way. If they wish to sell their beauty in exchange for the prospect of a better life, it is their right to do so.

Ahem, this statement is utterly judgmental in itself. Not to mention, totally wrong way to look at it because of luck of understanding the phenomenon.

All most Russian mail-order brides (old term, today it's really meet-on-internet girls) do - is widen the partner search to the global scope. Exactly as you don't dream about spending time with russian groom - they don't either. Living in a small provincial f.ussr town and wanting a family - if you want to limit your search for partner to your immediate offline surrounding - you are f8cked, and not in a good way. They choice of prospective boyfriends is often limited to a bunch of men from local metal factory, most of whom, starting from age 18, are alcoholics. It's just how it is there. I worked summer on a factory when I was in school, and those men start drinking in a changing room at 10 am.

Even 20 years ago, there was no other choice other than picking the best of available crop, or moving to capital city. Where situation is a little better (but still very difficult to find a good reliable man). And to meet men, girls would go to bars, friends parties, walking backpacking trips with groups of people, dance lessons... Today - the smart women say no to what society is offering and expecting of them, and widen search to another countries. Instead of going to bars and dance lessons, they go on internet.

Due to many reasons, it's a surprisingly good match with situation in America, where for some reasons (I don't pretend to understand) men can't find reliable women to start a family. So they hookup on internet with foreign women...

Due to my origin and history - I know a LOT of those couples. There are some gold diggers, and "bad" girls, just like you'd meet here, but way more than half of them are great couples and loving families.

I can totally understand how that "sudden" competition from abroad can be seen in a negative way (even if subconsciously) by american women :)

Edited Date: 2016-01-12 06:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-01-12 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Что это?

Date: 2016-01-12 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-d-w.livejournal.com
In Russia very few men - millions of men killed in the great Patriotic War.


And: Russian women are the best in the world. Russian men love Russian women. ))

So Russian men are the best.)

Date: 2016-01-12 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
"men can't find reliable women to start a family"...this isn't really true. There are plenty of women in the U.S. who follow the traditional approach - marriage, house, babies....The difference is that if you don't follow this path in the U.S., you aren't judged in the same harsh manner, or considered worthless as is sometimes the case in Russia. And these mail-order/Internet brides, or whatever you want to call them, are no competition for me. Men who are attracted to such glossy females would not be attracted to me and this is fine. I'm a "plain Jane," I'm sure you know this term because your English is good. :)

Date: 2016-01-12 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kichiro-sora.livejournal.com
again, totally wrong perception of "russian mail-order" women. Most of them became a great professionals. Doctors, lawyers, insurance agents, real estate... All that while raining good and smart kids too. I don't know many who are just stay at home moms. I suspect it's not the obedience that American man looking for. It's reliable partners, who are great looking too. Sorry to break it to you.

Date: 2016-01-12 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacetraveler22.livejournal.com
Why do you think Russian women are the best in the world?
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